We're in the Endgame now. (Tamnica diss)

Author	Message
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2019/07/08 17:41:49 Tamnica is a power-hungry admin that's unstable and childish. Like knows like, and this man needs to be held responsible for what he is. Tamnica is responsible for making a 16 year old mod cry multiple times. He bans first, asks questions later and is hellbent on his biases. Don't believe me? Ask. The. Community. Today, he was responsible for jailing people for 1 hour just for watching a situation go down. How is that right? His biases are so obvious it's blinding. It's impossible not to be bias, but it is possible to recognize and resist them. (just look at any other staff members. Especially other admins.) He not only targets me, but other members of the community that can't speak up without jeopardizing themselves. "But anto! You have no proof!" I'm not going to post private DM conversations, that'll cause more shit. I'm just speaking up for people who won't. This man is not fit for admin. And I refuse to sit back and watch him destroy a once fun Minecraft server. If you agree, don't be silent. Comment below your thoughts and opinions. A discussion is the first step to action.
Asriel	Date sent: 2019/07/08 17:49:36 agreed. i feel like tam just goes a bit over the edge with punishments, and i even caught them making shit up one time to punish me more. i accidentally bombed spawn once, and i called to all of the admins asap to help fix it since it was an accident, and he accused me of fire grief out of nowhere just to add extra punishment, even though i had ang standing right next to me the whole time watching who said i didn't set any fire. tam's attitude has also been pretty bitchy when trying to talk to him about the punishment, or really any topic tbh. i feel like tam is just either too power hungry, or doesn't know how to handle the power he was given as admin, and i personally believe he should be demoted. i know i don't play on the server anymore, but hopefully what i say here still counts.
Ninon	Date sent: 2019/07/08 17:58:57 I completely agree. He isn't strict, he's an ass that doesn't like being talked back to. He jailed Normal Mia and Minx just as long as he did me just for being near. He doesn't deserve to be in any position of authority, if this was real life and a normal workplace for the staff, he would be fired immediately for what he has done. The kind of power that goes along with admin does not belong in his hands.
Asriel	Date sent: 2019/07/08 18:00:18 since i quit the server and have been really inactive for like 2-3 months now, i haven't seen too much of him, but i do remember me not liking him at all when i used to play
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2019/07/08 18:30:39 Thank you guys for your opinions! I'd like to also add that tamnica has checked my /homes without any warrant to do so. He does this for all players he deems "toxic" or "problematic" this is a COMPLETE breach of trust. I advise all players who have crossed him to be weary of this fact.
Ninon	Date sent: 2019/07/08 19:01:57 He already went through my homes and removed one of them. With no warning and no warrant to do so.
AngenovaPuppeh	Date sent: 2019/07/08 19:45:26 The Jail thing didn't bother me at all, like at all. It's just the fact he had the audacity to make that sixteen year old cry. I'll probs be ready to forgive eventually as i'm a forgiving person, but this just pissed me off. Ya yeet
AngenovaPuppeh	Date sent: 2019/07/08 19:47:06 Also thanks Ninon for defending me reee
Techy	Date sent: 2019/07/08 19:57:26 I'm not as annoyed as you bois are, but I still have my problems with tammy. He has power trips every now and again, like when he decided to destroy a high-quality dick building no-one had a problem with because it was an "illegal build", apparently this is some unwritten rule no-one asked for. He's also unresponsive to criticism. Once, I got a 10min mute for saying wibba (I didn't know n word derivs weren't allowed at the time) without warning. I calmly msged tam asking that he warned people first, and saying that I though 10mins for an unwarned rule break was too much (personally I think 5mins max), and his only response was either it's in the rules (it isn't, I checked; he then said it was and I just couldn't see it, but for some reason he didn't want to tell me where), or I did warn you (he didn't; I asked when, and he "didn't know"). Finally, he just left to do something midway. There was no acceptance of criticism whatsoever. That's not what I want in staff. I want staff to a, follow the will of the players, not the rulebook, and rationalise situations without needing to read the book every 5 seconds, and b, encourage and listen to criticism whenever given. These are part of the job criteria I expect. I don't necessarily think tam should be destaffed straight away (demoting won't change much, mods still have jail ect), but he does need to take in this criticism. If he doesn't, I'll absolutely support destaffing.
MinxIsHere	Date sent: 2019/07/08 20:04:08 I agree with everyone here, tam can be a unfair at times and it does make me laugh a little sometimes, but jailing me and BudgetMia just for being at a place in the wrong time is just stupid. I hope something gets done about this but other then that I don't hate tam, I just think he should do his job a little better. -all the love, minx.
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2019/07/08 20:11:15 There are multiple times he's demonstrated his unfitness to be staff, be it unfair punishments, or immaturity. I think we can all agree that his promotion is one of the worst things that could've happened to this server, and i don't say that just to be rude, or to get my frustration out. I say that because its true, and seeing my, and many other peoples, childhood being slowly ruined as of late, (It's not just Tam, its many other factors.) is frustrating. When a once fun place is corrupted by greed and powerhunger, it becomes adamant that the community should do something. Now, its harder to do with a Minecraft server, but I'm sure we can try at least. Now, as for tam specifically, there are multiple occurrences that i can recall as failure to act as a staff member should. One, being how he acted with Mia, as you all should know. Another, being how he dealt with Ang's accidental spawn grief, which was already resolved. Ang was helping Miss_Sassy with destroying his tower at spawn, and they were using TNT carts to do so. After accidentally griefing, they called fat over to roll it back. It happened, nobody was punished, and everything was fine. Tam noticed a few blocks of grief that weren't rolled back, and temp banned Ang for 3 days. Now, while i understand he was acting with no previous information, 3 days is WAY too much for a few blocks, in a situation which could've been sorted out if he just talked to other staff members, or messaged Ang. This trigger-finger has already been acknowledged as failure to act accordingly in such a situation, and is one of the many tales of Tam's ineptitude at his position. I support destaffing
CCShad Moderator	Date sent: 2019/07/08 20:21:00 Memes aside though, Tam gets a lot more hate than he deserves. As the most active staff member, he handles the most situations, which of course means he has to deal out the most punishments. That can obviously lead to a lot of hate, such as posts like this. He has had issues, he isn't perfect. Loki and I had a long discussion with him about what happened with Mia just a little while before this post was made. As kind of the overseer of a lot of what happens in the staff team and on the server, I'll shed some light on some of the situations the community has pointed out here: @Ninon said: "He already went through my homes and removed one of them. With no warning and no warrant to do so." The home you had set was in a player's secured PRIVATE base without their permission. It should be very obvious why is was deleted. " He jailed Normal Mia and Minx just as long as he did me just for being near." Actually I gave him the order to do that, it's possible it was a misunderstanding, but from what I gathered, Angenova and Minx were also pulling White_Trader with a fishing rod. @Techy said "I got a 10min mute for saying wibba (I didn't know n word derivs weren't allowed at the time) without warning" I didn't hear about this incident, 10 minute mutes aren't often reported. You should've gotten at least 1 warning, if other people in chat were doing it, it's possible you missed a global warning (Ex: "Everyone quit with the n-word variations") but if you don't believe that to be the case, I'd like you to find it in your logs if you know what day it was on and DM them to me on discord so I can see exactly what went down. " like when he decided to destroy a high-quality dick building no-one had a problem with because it was an "illegal build"" That is actually against the rules, No builds such as nazi flags or genital recreations are tolerated here. It's hard to "warn" somebody for that since you still have to remove it if it was already built. @Aouldrain said "Ang's accidental spawn grief, which was already resolved." That incident was a large misunderstanding on the staff's part, Fatman accidentally missed some of it while rolling it back, and it wasn't reported because accidents like that aren't something we report. Then Tam found it and misjudged it as a grief. I came on after Aoul complained to me and resolved it, and told Fat and Tam to both be more careful while investigating in the future. So there you have it, a few incidents out of what must be at least a couple hundred. Tam's made mistakes, just like all the rest of the team, but I think what's going on here is a misconception of his actions. Something really similar happened to a former staff member, Armzngunz, a post was made about him accusing him of a bunch of things he improperly handled, he wasn't the most active staff member of all time or anything, but he had staffed for nearly 5 years, and had a lot of punishments over that time. My point is that you guys are picking out a few sour moments out of a thousand good ones. As always I encourage everyone to message me or Loki evidence of improper staffing so that I can speak with said staff member and help them improve.
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2019/07/08 20:31:43 Do you see the part where he literally made people c r y That being a person on his t e a m lol
Asriel	Date sent: 2019/07/08 20:35:13 it's not the fact that he punished me for breaking rules, it's the way he handled it, lied to get me extra punishment, then all of the other shit he's done
Helperforever	Date sent: 2019/07/08 20:35:26 He punished innocents and that ^.
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2019/07/08 20:54:32
AngenovaPuppeh	Date sent: 2019/07/08 21:02:41 Does pulling him with a fishing rod really deserve an hours jailing though? He didn't even die to be fair. I also left his base when he told me to. He had a beacon in his base with regen and wouldn't have died...
AngenovaPuppeh	Date sent: 2019/07/08 21:03:10 ALSO LOL AOULD
spacebois	Date sent: 2019/07/08 21:19:41 editing my comment
armzngunz	Date sent: 2019/07/09 03:27:28 Shad's comment really ruined some of the credibility of the people against Tam lol Seems like many of the issues are legit issues, but many of these "issues" were also either twisted to sound worse or were lies.
Presinus	Date sent: 2019/07/09 06:22:52 With that issue about Tamn and Ang, I watched Aoul explain the whole throwdown to Tamn, but Tamn was too busy stroking his justice boner to listen to a word Aoul was saying. Tamn attempted to encourage him to stop ruining the glory of banning someone. Honestly, the way Tamn goes about things, it seems like he seeks pleasure through banning and punishing as if it makes him honourable for doing so. If the military suspects someone actually likes killing people, they send them home.
AngenovaPuppeh	Date sent: 2019/07/09 10:30:36 Reee
Helperforever	Date sent: 2019/07/09 13:53:47 @CCShad it 100% was a home in someone's base because I was going to stab them with a sword later, seeing as how it's impossible to get the person to respond in chat or even via TPA. Tam took that away from me, the joy of being able to slaughter that child. I'll never be able to forgive him for that. :( And on the matter of Minx and Mia, it was all by my order, they did not deserve any kind of punishment.
tamnica	Date sent: 2019/07/09 17:14:19 This is a broad post that talks about me and things in general. To that I will respond with a general statement. Some of the comments highlight specific situations to them the responses will be specific as well. First lets get one thing out there to make it as clear as possible: If you feel like you cannot come out in public with evidence because of fear (of me or any other staff member or player) send the evidence to CCShad (he is Co-Owner for a reason) or Loki570023 (Owner for a reason) and explain the situation. That helps define the exact moments and situations and how they unfolded. If you do not have direct evidence you can always ask Loki570023 to access server logs and find the evidence for you (if there is some). I believe that both of the mentioned staff members are on the level, trustworthy and capable of making the right choices concerning any and all evidence of wrongdoings (be it staff members or players that are involved). That is how things work. If something bad happens screenshots (F2) and logs are the way to go. Logs can be fabricated, but there are always server logs which can be used to doublecheck any and all logs made on this server. If you find me, any other staff member, or player partaking in illegal activities, acting outside of our jurisdiction, any other foul play or something along those lines (against the rules) get evidence of that. Why is evidence so important? Because we are all human. People forget things, ignore things, do not notice things, refuse to acknowledge things and so on... No one is perfect. That is why collecting evidence is important. Evidence comes in handy here, because it is solid proof of something. Wether player forgot, ignored or did not notice something (or whatever other situation) evidence is the proof it happened. Without evidence things can go undefined and thus unresolved. Players (staff member or not) making any form of accusation or claim without having evidence to support any of it risk having their point stopped or refuted by other players involved. If the other player(s) just verbally claims the opposite its a word against word situation, which is exactly the opposite of what we want. If the other player(s) have evidence of the opposite, your point gets refuted and your claim denied. So in both cases you are at the mercy of the other player, if they claim otherwise you are in a deadlock and if they have data you lose. Its a no-win scenario. On the other hand, if you do have evidence, then its a different story. Other player(s) can make a verbal statement against your point, but since you have evidence you are more credible than the other player. If the other player(s) have evidence of their own the situation is escalated. By escalated I mean you need to get someone (the two owner team bois I mentioned above are the best) to compile both evidences and see which one wins the case. That is how it works IRL and here. Importance of collecting evidence for any and all claims you need to get approved cannot be overstated. Okay, now that this is done, lets get to the responses. The first part of Antos (Mr_black_is_back) post is calling for a public lynching and mentioning the situations I had with Mia (armin_ultrasoft). Situations with her were (as Shad already mentioned) thoroughly discussed and resolved (by escalating the situation to higher staff which then properly mediated the case). I do not appreciate this call for public lynching, public shaming and other similar actions, but it is something to be expected to happen to someone in my position. Armzngunz, Loki570023, CCShad and SniffSnuff are just some of the players (the ones I can remember right now) that had the same happen to them. It is not unexpected and with the experience of the ones that came before me I am ready and know how to deal with it. I would appreciate that not happening, but there is no direct way I can stop that anyway so if you feel like doing that it is your choice (I cannot and will not do anything about that). Second part is calling me out for bias. All of the above, that I wrote about evidence is how I act all the time. I do not ban, mute, jail, kick or exercise any other punishment without gathering evidence for it first. Forums are there to prove that, post a complaint (like this one) or a ban appeal (if you were banned) to get the response. I read the forums, heard the stories of staff members before me (did that before I applied for trial mod) that did not act like that (acted on impulse) and the problems that caused for them and the server. That is why (other staff can confirm) most of my actions are documented in the discord staff chat and ALL have reason and evidence why I did it. I might seem random to you or some other player, but there is a reason behind any and all my actions. All my actions as staff member that involve punishing other players have proof and explanations behind them. That is how I work and that is how I believe every member of the current staff team works (ask them yourself if you want to). Forums are here for a reason, all serious complaints and ban appeals are reviewed and talked about in the staff chat. Asking for reasons and evidence behind staff actions is how you get answers. You will not get answers as to why something happened if you do not ask or try to get them. We are (as a staff team) far from perfect. Mistakes happen all the time, but if you feel you were wrongly punished it is up to you to act upon it and get answers because others might not notice or if they do notice just do not care enough to bring it up. Third part is calling me checking /homes illegal and a breach of trust. I admit, as other staff members have admitted before me that I do check peoples homes. Going into spectator mode (to eliminate the chance of me actually interacting with anything at the said /home) and going into some players /homes to check up on things is what I did before, still do and will continue to do. Players that have their homes checked by me are always offenders (most of the time repeated offenders) or have reasonable doubt (with evidence of course) that they have broken the rules and thus the /home check is done if it is believed that it would help in the investigation or bring new evidence to light. I have a similar policy with checking peoples inventories (/invsee) and ender chests(/echest). If you play normally, do not break the rules (or break then non-intentionally) you have nothing to worry about. Players that intentionally break the rules are subject to punishments and are watched. As all of you already know the more severe the breach of rules is the more severe the punishment is. Checking up on repeated offenders happens proportionately to the severity and repeating of their offenses (Example: a player that broke the rules twice will be watched less than someone who breaks them constantly. Also keep in mind that time is also taken into consideration, if the player is active, but their last offenses were months ago it means they wont be as watched as someone whose offenses were recent). CCShad in his response explained most of the specific situations mentioned here so I will not respond to those since he told what was concluded in the staff chat (or ingame) by multiple staff members and thus I would just be repeating what he said. Asriel (xx_dreemurr_xx) claimed that I lied about and added to his spawn town tnt grief by saying the nearby fire was caused by him. I will repeat what I said to him before. The blocks that were griefed by fire were not counted into his grief block count for determining ban length. I even said so on his ban appeal (that he claims is not a ban appeal):"That fire was not counted into your grief block count so no need to bring that up." Link to the said ban appeal: http://webbcraft.co.uk/forum/read_topic.php?id=8737 Presinus claims that I enjoy punishing people as a staff member on this server. I do not know if and/or when I said anything of that sort, because I do not feel like that. Anyone who talks with me often and knows me can confirm that. On the other hand, what I feel does not matter in this case really, my actions matter instead. If you feel like I punish people because I enjoy it, act upon it. I can claim as much as I want to that the claim is wrong, but that will not matter to many of you. As I said above, collecting evidence and acting upon any injustice that you perceive is what you need to do. Actually, I know I would feel bad if I did something like that, had ability to get evidence of it and not acted upon it. Ignoring bad deeds while you can do something about it is almost as bad as doing it yourself. While I cannot claim I am without mistakes. I do them because I am not perfect and am a human being. Using common sense, acting on evidence, reading up on what happened before me (and when i was offline), asking for advice and communicating openly with my fellow staff members and players is what I do to minimize the mistakes. That all being said the mistakes still happen and I am doing only thing that I can do as staff on this server: I do my best to improve and learn from my and others (potential) mistakes to prevent them happening in the future. Lets just list a few of those wrongful punishments I did: Wrongly banning PyroGuy15 for xray (blame is on me for not collecting enough evidence for a proper decision) ban was revoked. Overestimating anglina4450s grief of spawn town (blame is on me for not making my investigation wider and communicating better with other staff members) ban was reduced to 6 hours. There are other mistakes as well, mostly in communication. Coming off to strong or serious is a problem I am working on and was told that I had improved since my promotion to admin, but continue working on it in order to reduce the amount of misunderstandings and to improve the overall staff-player communication which is crucial in minecraft servers like these. All my mistakes are out there, there is no denying that. So if I treated anyone unfairly, broke the rules and got away with it, or did any other foul play I apologize to all affected players for that and to the staff team. Now, players that want to can disregard all my points, all my calls for communication, betterment of the server and the community as a whole for various reasons. I cannot and will not stop you in doing that. Just keep in mind that changing yourself is the first step to changing the world. So if you are unable to let go of some grudges or whatever that is your choice. Who am I to judge you for that? No one is perfect and we all have to live with that. I have no personal beef with any of the players on this minecraft server. When I find out that someone broke the rules I investigate and, if necessary, act upon it. That is my obligation as an active staff member and will not change as long as I am staff on this server. If i were to ignore people intentionally breaking the rules it would be no better than me doing the rule breaking myself. Rules are here for a reason and if you do not agree with them you can always open communication into changing the rule(s). Breaking the rule(s) will not result in them being abolished, it will result in you being punished. All in all posts like these are actually good for the server community. I encourage you to speak up whenever you feel like a foul play is done (wether by staff member or a standard player) and show evidence because that is what constitutes order. If people act however they want, on impulse, need or power trip, it leads to chaos, and they need to be held accountable for that. With all this being said, I thank the community for responding because good and open communication is the way things get going. Good communication and constructive criticism leads to improvement and constant improvement is something that all people should strive for. To improve ourselves, our community and humanity as a whole.
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2019/07/09 18:54:54 Admitting to two mistakes then claiming that's all of them is wrong. Literally. You've made more mistakes then that. You make a good point in your statement, communication is key. However, your call for other players to change themselves because they see you in a negative light looks bad. "Players that intentionally break the rules are subject to punishments and are watched" So what's the point of punishments. You do something wrong, you get punished. You do the crime, you do the time. once you do the time, you've answered for it. WHY do you continue to PUNISH players just because they MIGHT be doing something wrong? Players and staff are divided. The first step to fixing that divide is god damn trust. I didn't just make a complain to shad or loki because I know exactly how that would play out. They'd talk to you, tell you to stop, you'll say ok sorry and NOTHING will change. It happens every time. Thus, instead of your superiors brushing it off, I brought it to the players. Comprehend these replies Tam. You can try defend yourself if you want, but at the end of the day, their opinions wont change. This is how they feel, and you would be a fool to think that wasn't important. I didn't call for a "public lynching". I called for opinions, good or bad. It's not my fault most were bad. It's yours.
notmyrealnxme	Date sent: 2019/07/09 19:08:00 I'm not going to get too involved on this forum or take sides, but I do want to say that its good for staff to have good relationships with the players, to make sure that the players are happy and enjoy being around them, and if one of the sides aren't willing to listen to the other or make changes then it just forms a toxic community that no one wants to be around. You need to make compromises, hear out others opinion, and as staff you need to make the players happy and be there when they need you to be. Like I said I'm not taking sides but just bantering like this isn't going anywhere and just causes a toxic environment who takes sides and is only stressful rather than enjoyable.
Helperforever	Date sent: 2019/07/09 19:35:12 Telling us to change does not solve anything. Every single person that has commented on this post and is not staff has expressed their opinion that Tam/staff in general have many issues that need to be fixed. The players should be able to trust staff and trust that they can rely on them when needed. As of now, the server staff functions like most school disciplinary systems, which is complete shit. They almost always don't solve problems, they just shrug them under the rug and hand out punishments. And Anto never called for any "public lynching" He made this to shed some light on this issue and get the opinions of the people.
Helperforever	Date sent: 2019/07/09 19:39:57 (For those confused, this is Ninon, I have different accounts saved on different devices so I just use whichever one is saved to the device I am using, apart from that, this is just an old account of mine that I use only because of the number of posts that it has, as Luigi has said in a previous post)
notmyrealnxme	Date sent: 2019/07/09 19:50:27 im not saying the players should change, i am saying that the staff should make changes based on the players needs and wants, and by not doing that it creates an unhappy environment like what we have here. im not taking sides but i do agree that just shrugging it off does no one any good
Ninon	Date sent: 2019/07/10 02:47:54 That was made in response to Taminca, not you, sorry, I should have clarified that.
Techy	Date sent: 2019/07/10 06:37:55 All your other points aside, Tam, Anto absolutely did not call for "public lynching" and "public shaming". First of all, how the hell does a lynching work in Minecraft? Unless you expect him to actually organise a lynching, a serious violent attack that has taken thousands if not millions of lives, IRL because of a Minecraft server. Secondly, misrepresenting your opponent is a low point. Anto never called for anything more than your demotion.
armzngunz	Date sent: 2019/07/10 19:29:46 Techy, I don't think you should take the word "lynching" so literal
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2019/07/11 02:21:00 Tamn accepts that his punishment of Ang is wrong so thats all i got. cya later nerds
Presinus	Date sent: 2019/07/11 04:25:11 Welcome to the education station, powered by Presinus ft. Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching
Techy	Date sent: 2019/07/11 13:14:07 who tf uses lynching in a non-literal way lol "ugh my mum is fucking lynching me rn" Anyways, my point stands that his arguement was at best hyperbole. It definitely sounded like he was accusing Anto of something he never did, unless "lynching" and "shaming" (together, for some reason) are just euphemisms for "demotion".
armzngunz	Date sent: 2019/07/11 13:34:38 It is pretty obvious he didn't mean lynching in a literal sense lol
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2019/07/11 20:35:26 Okay, so this post has been pretty useful in gathering different opinions from the community. However, it would be nice if staff at least talked to him about this issue, considering this post has gathered over 30 replies. An apology and recognition of his criticisms would be wonderful from Tamnica, and I'd consider this complaint dealt with.
AngenovaPuppeh	Date sent: 2019/07/12 13:22:42 bump >:P
CCShad Moderator	Date sent: 2019/07/12 18:36:43 This complaint was originally good to review the recent incident between Tam and Mia, as well as some of tam's other past mistakes, however the past several messages have just been baseless accusations. I can't make tamnica apologize for accidents he's apologized for in the past, so unless there's anymore evidence you guys can give me I think this complaint is finally resolved. Also, don't take this as me "brushing off" complaints against Tamnica, I've actually kept a very careful eye on this thread and have kept tracked of it well. I actually spent some time making a list of all the credible situations brought up here, and how they were handled, take a look here: And as we've said, always take screenshots and report abuse to the upper staff team, we literally cannot do ANYTHING if people just say "admin man bad!" and don't give us any evidence to hold against him, and as there's only a few players accusing tam of this without evidence, we have no choice but to take it with a grain of salt for the moment, and assume it's just players who dislike him for personal reasons. Resolved
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2019/07/12 19:58:51 I thought 30+ players making accusations would be enough to warrant some sort of investigation. I encourage anyone who may have screenshots supporting their claims to post them now. I'll search my logs after work tomorrow.
CCShad Moderator	Date sent: 2019/07/12 20:18:13 Don't exaggerate the facts, there may be over 30 replies, but there's only 12 players who have commented here so far, and don't assume every one of those people sees eye to eye with you. A few agreed with you, a few disagreed, a few remained neutral, and a few just raised awareness of past mistakes to add content to the post.
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2019/07/12 20:26:30 7 people agreed with me, which I still think is enough to warrant an investigation. The fact some were neutral and some disagreed should be enough to investigate A conversation was started, and so long as people feel disheartened, it wont end
Techy	Date sent: 2019/07/12 21:28:38 I can probably find chatlogs if you want, but you'd probably just say they were/could be faked. I don't have any screenshots because at the time I expected to be able to resolve the issue with Tam without escalating, since it was really more of a recommendation. Also, I don't really use screenshot much and I haven't played MC for ~2 years, so I'm kinda rusty. Also, I agree with Anto. The current accusations may be flawed, but there are enough complaints that this absolutely cannot be considered "Resolved". This issue is about as resolved as Brexit.
CCShad Moderator	Date sent: 2019/07/12 21:54:31 @Techy Well my point is that pretty much everything brought up here has been resolved, if you don't include everyone who's already been satisfied, there's only 4 or 5 supporters, with debatable credibility (Some of them like Asriel are extremely inactive, and haven't seen tam since he was new to staffing, others could be biased as they've been punished by Tam a lot for constantly breaking rules) I don't really see any issues here anymore, at least not any with evidence I can act on. Can you tell me what hasn't been resolved? Also I can get the logs confirmed by matching them to CONSOLE logs, so please do send them. Edit: If you send me logs, also give me the date they're from.
Presinus	Date sent: 2019/07/13 01:48:33 Tamn's response to me was just a really overcomplicated way of saying "no I don't" Regardless of whether or not you think you're doing something wrong, when so many people don't like your style, you should probably modify the way you go about doing things. Mush Co is meant to cater to the player, not explain why the player is / can be wrong/inaccurate.
Techy	Date sent: 2019/07/13 19:47:56 Here are the logs. They're from the 17th June. At [17:24:57] I say "wibba". At [17:25:21] I'm muted for 20 minutes (not 10 as I remembered). at [17:25:29] and [17:25:41], Tam explains it. The 'argument' starts at [17:45:38]. It continues until [17:51:36], when he leaves. In the entire log, which covers the entire part of the day I was on before I was muted, "n word" is only mentionned after I was muted.
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2019/07/13 20:25:08 The sheer aggression for saying a word that shouldn't even be considered a derivative. I, personally, don't want someone moderating the server which such force
Mr_Black_Is_Back	Date sent: 2019/07/14 16:52:35 So complete silence after the logs were posted? lol
Techy	Date sent: 2019/07/15 20:35:20 It's been 2 days now. Can we get a response?
Techy	Date sent: 2019/07/16 16:37:39 3 days.
Techy	Date sent: 2019/07/17 14:25:21 4 days.
tamnica	Date sent: 2019/07/17 22:33:17 Reissuing the warnings for the n word offenses has been defined better now with staff so things like this will not happen anymore. Apologies @techy for not warning that time before administering the mute.
Techy	Date sent: 2019/07/18 06:23:49 ty dad xx I still think you could have composed yourself better when we discussed ig, though. Thats what I'd say you need to work on most.
Helperforever	Date sent: 2019/07/18 14:16:57 bump
Blueroon	Date sent: 2019/07/27 21:44:14 +1
Miss_Sassy34	Date sent: 2019/07/27 22:04:27 HelperForever there was no reason for you to bump this thread, Tamnica has stated that he has made mistakes and, he will work better to control how he speaks to players during arguments and giving out bans. As Shad and Tamnica have already stated multiple times, this forum post no longer needed anymore responces.
Blueroon	Date sent: 2019/07/27 22:34:59 as you can see, people dont think things have changed, so the thread has made itself revelant again
Techy	Date sent: 2019/07/28 00:48:44 Sassy as much as the situation is solved, we need to keep it in mind so that we can see whether Tammy actually has improved. If/when he does, then we can stop bumping.
Miss_Sassy34	Date sent: 2019/07/28 03:49:52 I get what you mean Blue and Techy, but just dont take it too far
Presinus	Date sent: 2019/07/28 14:43:52 Sassy, did you read the date stamps on each of the comments?
Bitch	Date sent: 2019/07/28 19:06:38 Bitch
panic_420	Date sent: 2021/01/18 02:11:54
panic_420	Date sent: 2021/01/18 02:14:44 Hi, i’ve already talked about tamn as a admin/mod and i’ve said my opinions , but so it’s all in one place i’ll say them again, tamn is an active, concerned player and staff member, although they are a very quick person. in the sense of, tamn makes judgments and opinions on players very fast, and if they are doing anything even very remotely suspicious, they are quick to ban people without giving them any say it what or why they doing. and when it’s found that they weren’t doing anything wrong tamn then twists words to make tamn correct, again i enjoy that tamn is an active player but just because they are active doesn’t mean they are fair. i hope that what i say doesn’t get blown off, i don’t want tamn to just be thrown under a bus but, tamn needs to remember the importance of other’s opinions, choices and actions, they need to be taken into consideration and heard. we aren’t saying this to hurt tamn but to show them that they need to take a step back and listen. thanks for your time💚
chrom	Date sent: 2021/01/18 16:12:27 Did you read the date of the post? It’s almost two years old. So it’s irrelevant now
Minx	Date sent: 2021/01/19 14:28:43 bro.. hes doing his job- also it's irrelevant lols
cunothe1	Date sent: 2021/02/08 15:31:04 It is not irrelevant since some apparently still have issues with the way that tamn does things. We see this problem being addressed on tamn's admin application and on several other occasions. Tamn is very strict, but not unnecessarily strict IMO. I think that tamn should stay an admin, however I do think that tamn should listen more to what the situation is and to what people say. Some people were intimidated by how aggressive/hunting tamn can be at times. Thats why it might be a good idea to ask the victim if they want the other person punished instead of asking them to reply if they don't want them punished. Also tamn shouldn't discourage aid to the people that are shocked/confused. I think that the most important role of staff is to support the players. Be a bit more human.
Mateykoo05	Date sent: 2021/02/17 16:02:54 tamnica give me perma ban and my friend him give 3 days ban???? WTF is this logic please i like this server and i want playing please unpermaban please
cunothe1	Date sent: 2021/05/19 11:56:40 Not to forget that Tamnica communicates badly. I will briefly tell 3 events. The first is that when we were playing, all players /online were Etras and the chat has basicly been Etras or empty for like an hour or more. As far as we knew we were the only people online and we were all in a VC. So when I changed it to day and or sun, Tamn spoke out of vanish and immediately made a threat that I should ask otherwise my /day and or /sun would be taken away. Tamn should take into account that I asked all visible players and just say like "Hey I'm online, I would prefer the snow to continue, next time ask" The second one doesn't have much proof, it is more hear-say. I heard reports out of my faction that Tamnica refused to help an Etrarian player with staff-stuff because that player was mean about Tamn when Tamn wasn't online. Personal and work should be separated IMO. Third one was today when Tamn out of nowhere joined my fac, I thought it was a bad joke and replied "oh no, please no" when I /f kicked. I got tempbanned for that. A little communication would have been nice. Tamn apparently was doing something which could have been routed via me (/f owner command), since I was online and available. Besides it has little use since the events that preceded were between two facmods, who both automatically bypass personal chunk ownership. Tamn told I was banned because "you kicked without asking" . Faction owners are the ones who decide to /disband, /kick, or /join their faciton. Either give warnings beforehand with both the the ban and the join. Or ask me to do the stuff thats fine as well. But the shoot-first attitude isn't nice. Overal Tamn just kinda has this 1984 vibe. Coming out of nowhere to do stuff and always watching. And (allegedly) acting on those that don't have the right mindset. I literally flinched irl when tamn suddenly spoke out of vanish and when tamn suddenly joined my faction. All I ask is a heads up, some communication and to take into account other people can be reasonable and can talk. Before people reply again about how this is all irrelevant, it is still relevant. Tamn's problems with communication are as ancient as his rank. He acknowledged it and promised to keep improving. Therefore I find it good to make sure that Tamn knows where people feel he went wrong, which I'm sure Tamn understands. I said it before and say it again, in no way do I want Tamn to stop being an admin, but please just press 't' a bit more (or the another keybind for chat) "tamn needs to remember the importance of other’s opinions, choices and actions, they need to be taken into consideration and heard."

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