Author | Message |
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AstroDogs |
Date sent: 2016/06/04 22:50:31
Been awhile since I've had to write one of these..Username: Astro_Dogs Why you were banned: According to Chip : "Extreme case of breaching rule 3. Said I should kill myself." Just so no one can say I twisted his words : http://imgur.com/2Pj7nxj This is a 3 day ban, and I don't even remember saying that. I apologize if I did? I'm assuming I did in my half asleep state last night. When you were banned: 6/4/2016. Addendum : Might I also note that Guiness told me on more than one occasion (in front of Luigi when he was online and watching chat) to kill myself. I'm guessing he isn't banned. Again, sorry Chip if I did say something stupid like that, as at around 5 AM that was the first time I slept in just over a day. |
Guiness4 |
Date sent: 2016/06/04 22:56:36
lol peak times bro maybe you shouldn't take life for granted |
Penquinator |
Date sent: 2016/06/04 23:48:15
+1, this isn't something I ever see Astro do; he's incredibly kind for the most part. I think he should be unbanned again |
Kerochii64 |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 03:01:14
+1, whether he's in the wrong or not, you may as well go ahead and ban a good handful of people along with him. He hardly did anything wrong to deserve a 3 day ban as well. |
JasonSchonko |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 08:53:39
+1 |
Sparqy |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 09:08:13
Unbanned. |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 10:30:42
i was always told not to lie why should astro be banned? |
thomasjones |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 11:19:08
-1 |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 11:40:22
[12:15:55] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Enclave <[VIP]+ ~IAstro_ERRORI> Chip can hang himself.[12:16:01] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Enclave <[VIP]+ ~IAstro_ERRORI> I don't care how bad that sounds. [12:16:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Enclave <[VIP]+ ~IAstro_ERRORI> I fucking hate chip. [12:16:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Enclave <[VIP]+ ~IAstro_ERRORI> I hate him because he blamed the death of my friend on me. you said i should hang myself and didn't care if what you said sounded bad, you showed no remorse of what you said. you then found a CRAZY excuse for your words by saying i blamed the death of your friend on you!? Thats a horrible thing to accuse me of saying. maybe you got me confused with another chip (there are 2 other players with Chip in their name), but that does not excuse what you said. i wouldn't expect you to say that about anyone. *you later brought me into a situation that i had nothing to do with you* [12:18:39] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Enclave <[VIP]+ ~IAstro_ERRORI> Pretty sure it was chip that brought up me. [12:18:47] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Enclave <[VIP]+ ~IAstro_ERRORI> Reason 602328 why I hate chip you then brought be into a situation, where i think you were talking about you being a moderator, and i tried to stop you being one?? that's lies, whatever it was that the situation was about - it had nothing to do with me, i don't think i have ever even talked to you before. I showed the chat log to Eddie, "chip can hang himself" and explained that you had said a few other things about me that were horrible and false. Eddie suggested a 2 day tempban. i asked Luigi and said exactly what i said to Eddie, he said i could to whatever i wanted to punish you. Re-banned. |
Sauasgeman |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 11:49:41
I hate sparqy and I'm not banned :3 +1 |
Echos |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 12:27:43
+1 Get screenshots instead of easy to manipulate evidence. |
iHazzOwnage |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 14:15:30
+1 ^^ Screenshots. Otherwise, it's BS. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 15:19:33
why would i make this up? i received the chat logs directly pasted from an anonymous player. screenshots aren't available, so i have to go off of the chat logs - and especially considering who sent me the logs; i strongly doubt they tampered with them. i can get Luigi to check the console logs if you want to have his confirmation of what Astro said. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 15:23:32
also to add, sparqy only unbanned Astro because he gave sparqy the wrong logs/tampered with them.[4:14:50 PM] Harry: 12:15 - 12:16pm GMT [4:14:59 PM] Harry: i recieved the logs yesterday [4:15:19 PM] Sparqy: Ah, alrighty. He wasn't truthful with me. [4:17:49 PM] Sparqy: I didn't mean to cross you chip. Astro didn't give me the correct logs, even the ones I asked for when I was dealing with it, which can also justify the reban, correct? [4:18:25 PM] Sparqy: As if you were to lie to a staff member about another staff members judgements with false info given. [4:21:13 PM | Edited 4:21:32 PM] Sparqy: What I wanted to do was to see how it went, I knew that he would believe we were abusive if I had not unbanned him, and I even told him I could not help him if he was rebanned. My apologies, harry. [4:21:52 PM] Harry: its fine [4:22:54 PM] Harry: may i share what you have said on his ban appeal? [4:23:10 PM] Sparqy: What I said about him lying, yes |
Guiness4 |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 18:31:55
well it is something you'd make up to or over exadgerate about |
Lerz |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 20:05:33
May I add one thing.. Blaming the death of one of Astro's friends on him is one of the fucking worst things you can say to him. HOW could you blame a persons death on him? What is wrong with you!? You don't have a clue how hurtful that can be Harry. If I were to say that your uncle's death was because of you.. How would that feel? It may sound like a lot but that's to be compared with what you told Astro. If a person were to tell me that I was the reason why my grandpa died, that would tremendously hurt me. :/- Don't get me wrong, not trying to start anything before you lash on me again but think dear Chip. Before saying anything. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 20:22:45
Lerz did you even read what I said? I did not say anything like that to astro, AT ALL. I'd like him to provide evidence."you then found a CRAZY excuse for your words by saying i blamed the death of your friend on you!? Thats a horrible thing to accuse me of saying" |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 20:26:04
Do I need explain this to you all? A friend sent me chat logs of astro saying shit about me and lying about me, I banned him for it after consulting eddie and luigi. I haven't done anything wrong. I did my job (punishing rule breakers). |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 20:59:49
Wait a minute guys i have some chat logs for yaChip: luigi can go get cancer Astro: dont say that, you should hang Chip: im telling eddie ): i have more rights than you because im admin |
AstroDogs |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 21:36:56
I have never (and will never) Lie to Sparqy. I sent the logs dated from when they started on 6/3/16 to when they ended on 6/4/16. I am put off by the fact that the staff seem to believe that I manipulated the logs (When for a fact I didnt know of their existence in the first place). Chip, those logs you have could've been easily manipulated. I sent all of my logs that would potentially hold the right times to Sparqy, as I trust them. It seems I have put my trust into the wrong people. I'm going to copy down a part of the skype messages. I would not and did not manipulate anything. http://imgur.com/H8yKkG6The fact that I can no longer trust any of the staff members concerns me. I thought Sparqy was the only one on my side for anything. I thought wrong. And if those logs are correct, I was saying those around 3 am (For my side at least). I hadn't slept in almost a day. And ANOTHER THING CHIP. You said that I according to you, showed no remorse? Why don't you reread my entire ban appeal. I apologized numerous times, for something I still am not sure that I even did. |
Sparqy |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 21:41:36
http://imgur.com/HoliOIy |
Sparqy |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 21:42:14
No, you didn't lie and I presumed you were not truthful with me when giving me the logs, as I couldn't find the keyword 'hang' in this context in any of the logs, I may have skipped over it on accident. |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 21:46:17
Sparqy remember when you where sorted? Me too |
Sparqy |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 21:51:55
http://imgur.com/a/Ddwv6 |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/05 23:51:20
i think we have established that the logs were not tampered with.i also do not think that tiredness is an excuse, no aggression was aimed in my direction when i was mentioned in the chat - you were the first to say such horrible things; meaning that tiredness did not make you slip up and say something you didn't mean - you meant what you said but maybe you didn't realize you had said it in public. - no you didn't show remorse immediately after you said it, you reinforced it with " I don't care how bad that sounds." yes you said sorry once you had been banned, but so would anyone. |
AstroDogs |
Date sent: 2016/06/06 00:03:37
Chip you might want to look over the logs again. At that time I believe it was Kewo or Faster who originally brought up you in a staff context. I only joined in. I'm sure you have a lovely explaination as to why you didn't mention that others were also talking about you in a bad context. |
AstroDogs |
Date sent: 2016/06/06 00:07:54
Oh and another thing, Guiness4 told me (while lying I was on mind you) to kill myself more than once. I'd also like an explaination as to even with multiple staff members online, no one even lifted a finger. Compare that to me who vented some frustrations toward you in chat and is now banned for 3 days. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/06 00:39:40
It was faster who first brought me up, yes she said quite a few mean things but that is her opinion on me as a staff member. you took it way too far by saying i should kill myself. you wouldn't be banned if you hadn't of said i should hang myself. i have had a chat with faster about how two faced she is, acting like my best friend and laughing with me - and then going and saying something like that behind my back.What faster said in itself was not enough for a ban, if she had said i should kill myself she would be banned too. i also tried to talk to kewo about why she was two faced but she left the game as soon as i confronted her about being two faced toward me. you did more than just vent frustrations, you took it too far... while we are talking about that... why do you dislike me? nothing will improve if you just sit and hold grudges without telling me. it makes it hard for me to improve. when i said "aggression" i meant there was only opinions being said, and not things that discussed someone ending their life... As for the staff not handling guiness' behavior toward you - that's out of my reach. him not being punished is down to the staff that were online not doing their job. |
CaptainSpaceSheep |
Date sent: 2016/06/06 06:02:14
This is the post pathetic argument. You should all go kill yourselves.jk In all seriousness however Astro has been nothing but great to me and I agree that Astro telling chip to hang him self was over the line, but do we not all get carried away? |
CaptainSpaceSheep |
Date sent: 2016/06/06 06:04:16
If I'm going to be honest if Astro said he hated me and told me to go hang myself while chip was online he wouldn't care. |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/06 06:25:48
Excactly my point. Chip thinks he is something special because of his rank. If anyone else was told to hang ourselves we would just no listen to them. But nooo chip starts crying and bans people |
Sparqy |
Date sent: 2016/06/06 06:52:40
You forget that, disregarding what Chip has had in his past, everyone who has been told to kill themselves may have had an experience close to death by their own hand before. It doesn't help to have an enticing figure telling you to kill yourself when you've experienced the same feelings before on your own. It's imperative to treat everyone with respect, no matter their language, their religion, their sex, etcetera. Everyone has a different past and may react differently to situations given to them by someone who shows no respect for their past actions. Everyone deserves the same amount of respect given and should always remember the feelings and emotions of other people. Harvey, as an administrator your duty is to manage the welfare and overall happiness of the server's community. Everyone is entitled to a good time on the server, and with someone telling to kill themselves I see no reason why that shouldn't harm their mental state enough to become angry or fed up with that said someone because of their probable past. All members of the community deserve a happy environment to play in and toxicity towards other players that disrupts their attitude or emotions is not tolerated. It should be an implied rule that everyone has emotions just as much as the next person and doesn't deserve the treatment given to them by said person. It doesn't matter if they're staff or citizen, rule three still applies to whomever has insulted such a player. It still applies, disregarding maturity and rank. Please be more considerate towards other players, they have feelings you may not know about and can trigger easily. Regarding this incident, our data logs match up, it was not tampered with, and Astro did indeed tell Chip what was written above. I as well highlighted parts that may be of use regarding Guiness's behavior as well as Astro's on the server just after what he said about Chip. Cheers. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/06 10:42:33
Sparqy I couldn't have said it any better myself, your first paragraph especially explains my situation. I have been suicidal multiple times and had a friend which I lost to suicide.As you you Jord, im mildly dissapointed. If I saw anyone telling anyone to kill themselves I would punish them. |
XxDJAssasinxX |
Date sent: 2016/06/11 00:02:56
D: even if Astro did or did not do this, please unban him. hes a very nice player in the community and helped me with some stuff. hes a great builder and his faction is very helpful. please unban him. hes the complete opposite of Toxic. |
Sparqy |
Date sent: 2016/06/11 01:36:10
He's been unbanned for awhile, as it was a temporary banishment. |
NicNac |
Date sent: 2020/11/06 23:00:25
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