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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/26 12:44:11
Should I make it happen or no?
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/26 15:04:43
When asked in game: 5 yes 0 no
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uiouio111
Date sent: 2015/12/26 19:08:01
No... My reasons I disagree with such a thing is its an alienating event. Sure in the real world homophobia is an issue, but the internets allow people to be themselves. We don't need anyone, form and group of people, saying "Hey, look at us, Notice us! See us? We are so proud of ourselves!" The reason no one said no is because they don't want to feel as if they're coming off homophobic.There is no reason to isolate any one group of people. So yes. Go Gays, but more importantly...
Go humans, and may we forever succeed in our endeavor to seek more knowledge about who we are and where we came from.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/26 19:24:24
Just because of you're comment I'm going ahead with this! Thanks uiouio111! Us LGBT peeps do these events to inspire people to be who they are and to get DAT shit legalised, so tbh, if you disagree with it, don't go!
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CaptainSpaceSheep
Date sent: 2015/12/26 19:35:36
I disagree. In the real world, gay pride is a thing that homophobics do not attend. In this game, however, there are always homophobics, and you cant stop them from being online, and you will only hurt yourself.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/26 20:02:38
Homophobes will be dealt with by staff. We shouldn't stop doing this because of an off chance a homophobe will attack us. Also cap, educate yourself properly on the topics as homophobes do assist with their god hates you signs and gays rek them by ignoring them
Ty
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/26 20:11:11
he reason no one said no is because they don't want to feel as if they're coming off homophobic.

Don't speak for others you disgrace. Most said yes because its "fun" or "sure why not", " yes that would be awesome", "YEEEEEEEEES", So shut your mouth and let people speak for themselves, uiouio111.
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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2015/12/26 20:16:52
I'm all for this event going ahead. But instead of only gay pride can we in general promote the LGBT community?

Also how dare you invite yourself to make work for the staff!?! I'm disappointed in you wowman.

Jkjk anyone to be homophobic or showing discrimination with be dealt with by staff.
:3
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/26 20:20:45
Its an LGBT event, it'll be called gay pride but will include the lgbtqpi+ community.
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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2015/12/26 20:25:50
*thumbs up*
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/26 20:48:02
My butt
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Sauasgeman
Date sent: 2015/12/26 21:08:49
... i knew wowman was gay but i didnt know he would go this far into making the server have gay pride honestly i rlly dont care so do what ever you want

-+1
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/26 21:18:17
Tysies
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DCThanatos
Date sent: 2015/12/26 21:30:33
I support lgbt 100%, so anyone being homophobic when it isn't needed, will have to have a special talk with me ;}

-DC
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Lerz
Date sent: 2015/12/26 22:12:23
Why not? +1
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Penquinator
Date sent: 2015/12/26 23:50:31
Staff won't deal with homophobics who say non-offensive things.
So don't get pissed when someone says something against the lgbt community.
If you plan to have a gay pride day on the server, I -1.
I have nothing against the lgbt+ community, I'm apart of it but I don't think this is a good idea.
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luigiofthebakery
Moderator
Date sent: 2015/12/27 01:04:27
Young children play on this server, they come here to have fun, not deal with issues of sexuality. Many are too young to even known what their sexuality is, so you shouldn't force your views upon them.

Then there's the fact you will have to understand not everyone will agree with your views. I agree with penquinator, people have a right to express their opinions if they are not offensive. If people feel that such a demonstration is encroaching upon their pleasant time on the server, they can say so.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/27 05:03:33
I completely agree penq, I can. Take opinions, just not straight up hate.

Luigi, the event isn't to "force their sexuality upon them" I don't even know
what that means.
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Penquinator
Date sent: 2015/12/27 06:25:46
Wowman, what I think luigi means is that people come on the server to have fun,
rather than to learn about sexualities, I agree the subject is important but the server isn't a school, just a place to have fun.
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uiouio111
Date sent: 2015/12/27 07:55:34
@wowman don't use quotes if its not a quote. Also I never said why the people said yes. Just why one would be scared to say no.
On a side note, for an open discussion since that's what forums are for, what if we made a double standard of DC's above statement, which would read "anyone being gay when it isn't needed will have a special talk with me"? (sorry for calling you out DC just thought your statement would make and interesting conversation)
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/27 09:23:57
Who said I will be teaching kids about their sexuality or telling them what their sexuality is?

All the attractions will divided into an age group and people under that age group, (with the exception of myself), would be granted access, for the younger kids there is a theme park and many games.

There will be a label room teaching all ages all the different types of sexuality with the off-chance that someone is struggling with their sexuality and need a label, in this room it'll explain that there is no need to rush into such a thing, take time & that you have to understand that it's not a decision, giving friendly and helpful advice.

I am going ahead with this event because the majority want it, I want it & it's going to be super-gay and suuuuper-fabulous,


Kind unicorns,

-Gayman2002
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/27 09:36:05
WE HAVE THE LOCATION!
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L3genD
Date sent: 2015/12/27 11:35:14
-1 Now don't call me a homophobe or anything for this, but I personally don't think it should be added.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/27 11:37:28
Your votes aren't needed anymore, it's going ahead.
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L3genD
Date sent: 2015/12/27 11:53:37
No it's not, Luigi didn't want it.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/27 12:14:49
Yes it is, he doesn't want me to "force my views upon them", which was never originally going to happen. We ARE going ahead with it.
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uiouio111
Date sent: 2015/12/27 12:22:46
No. No. No. You should not be able to do this. You said, and I properly quote unlike you," Who said I'll be teaching kids about their sexuality..." But later you said "There will be a label room TEACHING all ages the different types of sexuality..." Where is your material coming from, who are you to decide what's appropriate, why do you get to not be divided amongst the age group? This hasn't been here for long enough to get a proper majority vote. Also, Luigi is the owner, so what he says is law.
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uiouio111
Date sent: 2015/12/27 12:23:40
Who is this we?
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/27 12:27:44
Luigi never said no.

Also, I misworded myself, I just messaged Luigi explaining, the label room will be for people of an appropriate maturity level.


This will be going ahead, the younger players will have access to attractions+minigames and not much else. Anything inappropriate they wont have access to, I assure you. Anything else like games, competitions, attractions, gay parade is perfectly fine for them.

The gay bars aren't inappropraite so they'll also be allowed in. The children aren't "put at risk" by going here, nor will they see anything rude/inappropriate, it's a fucking fair with games and attractions and they wont see anything rude as it'll be hidden and for the adults.
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uiouio111
Date sent: 2015/12/27 14:25:15
Again, where are you getting said information for the "label room"? And what rating system are you using and why aren't you tied to it. Who are you to decide if someone is mature or not? And who the hell is the "we" all is see is a you!
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/27 14:32:25
The people working on the gay pride event.

It's clear who is mature and who isn't. Would you like to decide, Uiouio111? Don't attend and this doesn't affect you.

Also, I gather the Label information from Have A Gay Day, they send their regards! :)
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Penquinator
Date sent: 2015/12/27 15:05:30
Wowman, not everyone wants to be apart of this and you doing it on our server without everyone's consent would be forcing it upon them.

You're basically forcing what you believe on to people, hypocritically if someone who didn't like the lgbt+ community did the same, you would go on a rampage.

Please think again, not everyone wants to see this on the server, they have a right to play on the server when ever they want without seeing things which may upset them. YOU don't have a right to have this event on the server when people have asked you not to.

Would this be fair if I made an event NOT supporting gay pride? Indeed not, so please don't have this event on OUR server.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/27 15:19:00
No, I respect that people don't want to be a part of this. They aren't forced to attend, those who want to can come. Nobody is forced too.

Also, I am not discriminating anyone, I am not doing anything wrong, I wont stop this event in case I offend homophobes.

It wouldn't be fair if you made an event not supporting gay pride, that'd be discrimination, what we're doing isn't discrimination, there is nothing wrong with it and it will go ahead.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/27 15:30:28
The majority on the server want it.


The pride event wont be a bad thing, it's a fair with rides, games and attractions. A few appropriate gay bars. Children wont be affected and it's ridiculous that you think so

I'm not trying to fucking convert children or even teach them about sexualities, it's a fucking fair with fun fucking games and fun fucking rides. It's going ahead so get the fuck over it and move on with your day.
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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2015/12/27 16:59:20
Ooooo I get it now... "it's a fair with rides, games and attractions. A few appropriate gay bars." so you just want more money, ahh... XDDD

Also, I agree with Penquinator. Btw wowman your response of "They aren't forced to attend, those who want to can come. Nobody is forced too." they may not attend he event but they may join the server - where you'll be broadcasting the event with updates and boosting the warp to it. Which people may not want to see.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/27 20:46:54
What are they gonna see that they don't like? A fucking fair? A fucking unicorn? A fucking bar and fair? If they're upset bout seeing that they can frankly piss off.
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Penquinator
Date sent: 2015/12/27 20:56:30
"Staff won't deal with homophobics who say non-offensive things.
So don't get pissed when someone says something against the lgbt community."


"completely agree penq, I can. Take opinions, just not straight up hate."

You're not taking these well are you?

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thomasjones
Date sent: 2015/12/27 21:46:50
^^
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uiouio111
Date sent: 2015/12/27 23:37:44
In civil disobedience to wowman, I was wondering if I can hold a fair called "20:13" as in Leviticus 20:13. I personally don't believe in the bible bullshit, but if wowman gets to spread non-family friendly ideas on the forums I want to too. Not all parents want or support gay pride or marriage. Neither do they want some 14 yr old KID spamming the forum with it. So inturn I'm creating an alternative "PEACEFUL" event as well. I won't teach them about sexuality, butt will have a label room for those I deem mature which will teach them the different sexualities.. I will not use a universal censorship rating nor will I include my self. I will ask for a vote, butt will go through with it no matter the results. I will not ask for consent of the parents of any minor.
Some of the events include.
Roller coaster-Will be in a straight line, like it should be.
Tunnel of love-married couples only.
The mascot is Anti-Wank Hank.

This article was created in satire and I shouldn't have to defend it because it is an opinion. Don't get butt hurt wowman, at least not about this... Wink wink.
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L3genD
Date sent: 2015/12/27 23:42:17
Anti-wank Hank lol...
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/28 07:44:36
If a child is underage its assumed they're being watched.

You guys I don't get what you guys mean, there isn't going to be anything inappropriate, if someone including the kids are against it then they can leave


Penq, I'm getting frustrated as they think children are put at fuckin risk and that's the most ridiculous fuckin thingg I've ever heard.

Uiouio111, the love tunnel is for single people you dimbo haha. Its clear your against it so don't assist and it won't affect you. I'll let you all know if any kids were mentally disturbed in the making.


Its going ahead.
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armzngunz
Date sent: 2015/12/28 14:31:58
Go ahead, nobody is stopping you, it is good showing you're proud of something. But showing you're proud of something to the extent you've done/is doing comes, in my opinion, very close to being obnoxious. Its likes those bible guys who comes to every door and says "Hey, do you have a moment to talk about our lord and saviour jesus christ?" Or those patriots who keeps talking about how great their country is, to everyone, and everywhere they go.
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uiouio111
Date sent: 2015/12/28 18:47:02
I would love for you to have a gay pride thingy as long as it isn't broadcasted on the server and on the forums.
Post Script: You can't assume the parents are watching them. Or there would be a lot less children playing. Also, I do admire your strong diction, but no one is going to attack you in the orginal sense of the word. You aren't marching to Birmingham with MLK. I mean someone might harass you, with words, not with billy clubs and baseball bats.

Have fun and try not to be too prideful like arms said.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/28 19:30:36
Sorry! Expect to see it all over the forums and in game. We want people to be there silly! Thanks for the complements.
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Alyse_The_Thief
Date sent: 2015/12/28 19:52:57
Can't we just not have this on the game please? A game is meant for fun, not serious topics such as this...
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/28 20:01:33
Its happening.
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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2015/12/28 20:24:46
Ugh wowman, no body wants this to happen. You say you have a right to do this yes? Well people have the right to not allow you to do this.
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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2015/12/28 20:27:12
Instead of taking such a serious matter into a game - which will annoy many people, go and do it in real life at an event people will appreciate. You know that you're just going to get hate for going through with this, so don't come complaining on the forum when someone voices their opinion on your sexuality.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/28 21:14:38
Don't say nobody wants it when really its only 5 people on the forum. I don't give a flying fucksticle what people think about me, so I'm going to make a gay pride, it is going ahead, the only thing that'd stop be is a ban. If I wan. It I get it, nobody will tell me otherwise, for once I'll do something I want, if you don't like it then get the fuck out. This isn't your server. (This message is for everyone).


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miketikel7
Date sent: 2015/12/28 22:01:02
+1 for RL, but -1 on this server because, like Luigi said, young kids play on this server and it's not their "time" to learn about this stuff, I honestly don't care, but I do care about what would happen to younger kids who would do/see this. This is Luigi's server :P, so it kinda is someones server, but whateve's
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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2015/12/28 23:03:43
You said it yourself wowman "if you don't like it then get the fuck out. This isn't your server."
I have actually asked people through minechat if they want it, and they all replied with a paraphrased "no". If you don't like it that we don't want your event then "get the fuck out"
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miketikel7
Date sent: 2015/12/28 23:32:11
Guys, lets not argue, we all got different views and opinions, but i think it would be a better idea to not share most of it, because it usually ends out with a large conflict. Wowman, you can have this "Gay Pride" thing, but dont include people who dont want to be included in it :).
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Penquinator
Date sent: 2015/12/29 00:43:07
for once I'll do something I want,

You've done alot of things you want, for once listen to people and take their advice, leave such important matters out of the server.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/29 07:46:20
Nobody will be teaching them shit.


Its going ahead
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Penquinator
Date sent: 2015/12/29 13:59:07
Should I make it happen or no?

You asked US, my thinking is that you thought everyone would love the idea and you'd become some good person but now alot of people don't want it to happen your plan has backfired and now you're getting pissed. Why have this gay pride event now? It would be better to have it around a time that gay pride is being celebrate in real life.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/30 11:09:38
Hello Penquinator & everyone the hell else.


I did ask everyone yes, and I'll be sincere in saying I wasn't expecting this reply. I hope your aware that Gay Pride events take place all year round in different places of the world, there is no need to wait until september to do the main one. I'm not getting "pissed" over the fact that it's getting a negative response, (as well as positive may I add), it's the fact that people's reasoning is stupid, for example "AssassinCat's" reason is: "The word gay doesn't need to be known". How ridiculous is that?

Uiouio's reasoning: 1. In case of homophobe attacks, 2. In case parents are against same-sex marriage and/or the children/people might get offended.

My point here: This is a family-friendly server, which also implies it's LGBT friendly. If one got offended by same-sex marriage, why would one do /warp GayPride? It's ridiculous.


Alyse's answer I can accept, for example, it's that we shouldn't have such a serious topic on a MineCraft server, that's a good point, fair enough and I can accept that, as it's not utterly ridiculous, but this is something I really really want to do and want everyone's support, (minus homophobes).


Penquinator your reason is simply on the fact that some people don't want it, but MOST do, all the people I have asked, (and before anyone starts I did say I don't mind what the vote is), the MAJORITY haven't said yes, the MAJORITY haven't said no, the MAJORITY have said they do not mind, which is one of the reasons the event is going ahead, second after that, now including forum votes, the majority have said Yes. 5 People have said no, (Uiouio111, Dan, Penquinator, CaptainSpaceSheep & HeyHolly), and I think I missed someone out.

8 people on the forums alone have said yes, 3 people in game.Forumwise it's 8v4 or 11v6 in-game. There is going to be a gay pride simply on this, (including Chip's vote).

Who voted "Yes"?


-Lerz
-Chipbruh
-ArmzNGunz
-DCThanatos
-Miketikel (he said I could have the LGBT event but not include people who are against it in it)
-Myself, (I do count)
-DatGoodBear
-Crafty1212 (She didn't vote yes but she said it was a brilliant idea on the plan list topic)

For this reason the event will be going ahead, thanks to all those who have voted.
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/30 13:41:34
BUMP
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Penquinator
Date sent: 2015/12/30 13:46:33
Okay, well I'll accept that this is going ahead for now, but I won't be taking part in dealing with any stupid issues that you may come across. While this event is going on I'll probably be afk. This doesn't mean I won't mute people being offensive but it does mean I won't help with stuff like builds broadcasts ect, ect.
Also, if you're going to spam the warp like every minute I will warn you to stop. Doing it every 5 minutes is fine but as some people don't want this event every minute can really piss them off, I hope you understand :)
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Wowman2002
Date sent: 2015/12/30 13:52:03
Thanks for your civilized and fair reply, I'll fully understand if you do not help as you are against it, I can accept that.

Thanks.
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uiouio111
Date sent: 2015/12/31 03:23:28
For the record books, I never said a possible attacks would be a reason to halt this event. I said the word attack was to strong considering this is a virtual world.

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