Server boycott

Author	Message
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:18:25 Hello, As most of you are very aware, you can buy your way to Trial Mod and I know that there is a lot of anger and a lot of people feeling betrayer right now. Unfortunately this has happen in the past and will happen again. Unless we make a statement Luigi and Chip will carry on doing what they like despite what everyone else thinks. THE PLAN We will boycott (not come on) the server for 24 hours on Saturday the 24th of June. It will start at 00:00 on Saturday and stop at 23:59 British summer time. Encourage as many people to take part so those in charge cant ignore the many.I have put a link to a timezone converter website so you know what time it is for you http://www.thetimezoneconverter.com Tips If you are bored on Saturday try these things; Hang out with mates Read Study Play another game
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:20:20 In other words, get on if you want to be punished!
Michael9999995	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:20:21 I admit, the buying staff ranks is bullshit, but isn't this a bit excessive? No offence...
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:23:49 Michael the point is that those at the very top (aka. Luigi and Chip) Keep on doing things that majority of people dislike but they don't care because they think we cant do anything. Even luigi's entire staff team despises that you can by trail-mod but he re-promoted Ross because he doesn't care.
ckvoss	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:25:50 Okay Tom, so someone donates you 100 more dollars than the highest donator rank. What do you do? Say thanks and give him a pat on the back?
Everam	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:26:00 I have £14k in my bank, I wonder if luigi would let me buy the server off him...
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:28:11 Yes you say thanks and give them a custom rank at most. But you should never be able to but Trial-Mod. Trial-Mod is a rank that you should earn, not pay for...
luigiofthebakery Moderator	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:40:15 Everam pm me if you're serious about that and we can discuss it further.
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:41:51 Please don't Everam, Then mush would die.
Michael9999995	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:43:59 holy shit everam are you serious? :o
Shindori	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:44:21 Ckvoss, even Luigi said if you donate you don't have to expect something in return because it's a donation. Seems like he's contradicting his own words though by pulling stuff like this.
Matodir	Date sent: 2017/06/22 18:53:39 Ah, I see, first donator with gmc, then Architect with gmc, now fucking trial mod 😂😂😂😂. Luigi and Chip are fucking jokes LOL, the server has gone to a level of shit SO low that they put a fucking staff rank for sale? 😂😂😂😂. I thought webb was ok to bad, now it's kingly shit 😂. "Everam pm me if you're serious about that and we can discuss it further." 😂😂😂😂, that made me laugh so hard, even luigi realized that webb is beyond saving. Oh and I heard tom got tempbanned for speaking his mind about this fuckery and being sensible, proves me right lmao, I always said that being remotely sensible rather than luigi and chip's slave, will get you punished. 😂😂 How long before there's gonna be like 30 trial mods? LOL
luigiofthebakery Moderator	Date sent: 2017/06/22 19:07:48 But Shindori, if someone does donate a lot I want to try make it worth their while by at least giving them a custom rank, or in this case, Chip chose to give them trial-mod. When ross donated he didn't really know what he was going to get, originally I think Chip said he was going to get a custom rank, but then decided to give him trial-mod instead because he wasn't sure if he could create custom ranks.
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/22 19:08:31 Well I got muted cause I wouldn't shut up about it then I got temp banned cause I bypassed mute.
Shindori	Date sent: 2017/06/22 19:13:38 Then why don't you give him a custom rank now? You're only angering a lot of people who are trying their best to become trial mod, and you're basically backstabbing those people. You don't appear to be very close to this community, by pulling stuff like this the gap between you and the people who play on your server will only get bigger :/ Then on the server you come with the excuse that he "was going to have trial anyways" when firstly he didn't even have a moderator application up?
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/22 19:22:33 What I want to see (And probs most people) •NEVER to see some buy their way to a staff rank (Unless its a very high up staff member who want to become co owner). Also never see "Special Deals" be done to players. This is thinks like Selling staff ranks and World Edit and powerful commands. •Give Ross a custom rank with as many non staff commands as possible. I think most people wouldn't mind if you have to refund part of the money back to him. •Listen to the player more and especially your own staff members. •sort out the staff board and prioritise getting more EU and AUS staff members (I will stand in as temp staff again when you have sorted this mess out. Until then I wont) If you do these request (Not the last one straight away) the boycott will be called off.
Riddlr	Date sent: 2017/06/22 19:28:21 I agree with Tom and would simply like to add that accepting money for staff ranks and benefits similar to WorldEdit or what have you simply sends out a bad message and gives off the scent of corruption. Personally, I find these kinds of deals disgusting and would urge the Luigi and Chip to seriously rethink their methods in gaining funds to improve the server.
Everam	Date sent: 2017/06/22 19:29:36 Alright I wont be buying the server, but if my ban appeal gets looked at some more I'm considering giving a couple hundred. btw don't accept because I said this, I don't want to bribe you. Just saying I'll probably donate after my unban
luigiofthebakery Moderator	Date sent: 2017/06/22 19:30:14 Shindori, him getting trial-mod won't mean anyone else will have less of a chance. Like tom said we still need more staff in the EU timezones I think. Tom in response to some of your points, Ross definitely deserves trial-mod and feedback on a potential public moderator application of his won't be very accurate now because of people's bias against him.
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/22 19:42:32 Rifflr I've added you suggestion to the demands. Luigi I'm going to wait till 12:00 BST (22:00 your time) for more suggestions to come in then I will create a final list of demands then you have 12 hours to negotiate and accept our demands.
Shindori	Date sent: 2017/06/22 19:43:13 I didn't mean that, luigi. I meant to say that there are people right now who really deserve to be trial mod and want to work hard for it, but now some dude throws his money at you and he gets a staff position. That's just bad man
fatmanjumprope Moderator	Date sent: 2017/06/22 19:59:24 I boycott the server 3 weeks out of every month already just due to inactivity. Am I allowed to skip this?
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/22 20:14:13 No Fatman!
fatmanjumprope Moderator	Date sent: 2017/06/22 20:19:15 Nooooooooooo!
Chip_Bruh	Date sent: 2017/06/22 21:43:28 what is this meant to achieve? the server will still be open, new people will still join. in fact it's more likely that new players will stay because there wont be a toxic community that would otherwise drive them away from the server. we should probably thank you..
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/22 22:01:23 The point is that we are showing Luigi that the server as a whole doesn't like what he is doing and that we aren't just to be ignored.Time after time after time Luigi has done something the server as a whole doesn't like and we are fed up of complaining on Luigi just ignoring us and just go ahead of what he wants to do. We might have 1 or 2 people on just to kill the Default over and over again ;)
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2017/06/22 23:13:15 Or, we can report the server because of violations of EULA.
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/22 23:19:08 Maybe as a last resort Aouldrain. But I think we can have some fun before we do that :)
galbby5	Date sent: 2017/06/22 23:33:57 Don't report for EULA, I still like the server and the community.
TooeleJedi	Date sent: 2017/06/23 00:27:39 Tom, i accept you boycott, i might not even be able to be on saturday, anyway, everyone that day come on hypickle and join the guild, then we can choose and decide what to do from there.
NicNac	Date sent: 2017/06/23 00:44:28 What if it wasn't called Trial mod and was called fucking something else? Jesus christ you guys. Can I please see a list of exactly what is the Cons to Ross having the rank? So far I see: -He has mod capabilities (But if he abuses he gets it taken away) - He can ban as he sees fit (But if he abuses he gets it taken away) - He can GMC (Gosh Arch has that too!) - He can roll back blocks (But if he abuses he gets it taken away) Like honestly If Luigi needs the money, and Ross knows he's treading on thin ice, then I do not see the issue. Also by making this post you are pretty much screaming "BAN US" as soon as you come on and abuse.
TooeleJedi	Date sent: 2017/06/23 01:02:34 NicNac you forgot to meantion the fact that he didn't need to work to get it just pay, some people have been trying to get trial mod for a year+ using mod applications and Ross just gets to skip past that and get a 100% chance to get a change at getting mod.
NicNac	Date sent: 2017/06/23 01:13:29 How much is it? Is it just $100? Ultimately this is Luigi's server and TBH if I ran a server for this long, I would accept any money coming my way. To Luigi this is just another donation, and sure you can BUY any rank you want, but that doesn't mean you keep that rank FOREVER. Just like any rank, If you abuse then it's 100% terms for a demotion. Ross wont keep it forever and if he does it's simply because he hasn't abused, and if he hasn't abused he either A) Hasn't used his rank (fine by me) or B) helped the server (Best scenario).
Toxic_Rayz	Date sent: 2017/06/23 01:21:25 Dont worry guys, Im doing my part I am not coming on and havent been on for months XD
JellyJoe198	Date sent: 2017/06/23 01:54:39 NicNac I'm glad you're bringing the facts back into the discussion cough have you considered running for mod cough cough
NicNac	Date sent: 2017/06/23 02:00:41 Fun fact: I was a mod :P
LittlePinky	Date sent: 2017/06/23 02:08:34 Surely people spawn killing new players will be banned, that or no pvp allowed in spawn area
NicNac	Date sent: 2017/06/23 02:28:09 Which is exactly why hosting this idea on the forums is a terrible idea. It's like planning an attack on an enemy inside that enemies walls. It just doesn't make sense.
TooeleJedi	Date sent: 2017/06/23 03:49:21 @NicNac Nic, it's useless to try to stop the boycott sadly. Yes, i have had a meeting with my faction on this matter and we have decided to not boycott the server and we aren't going to take part in the war (if there is one), sorry.
Shindori	Date sent: 2017/06/23 06:59:50 @NicNac, I already heard he has been caught giving out gmc items but nothing has been done against that. And I love how the topic of the toxic community is being dropped again. One of the reasons why people turn 'toxic' as you call it, is because we feel ignored by the leadership on this server as Tom stated. Even if you get new players and you keep ignoring them they'll get fed up with it eventually.
Shindori	Date sent: 2017/06/23 07:20:22 And why did Jedi's complaint about the topic of Ross donating for staff get removed? Scared that new people will see how things go on this server?
Zedcall	Date sent: 2017/06/23 07:31:31 l heard that jedi requested it to be removed
Shindori	Date sent: 2017/06/23 07:39:48 Ah I see
Matodir	Date sent: 2017/06/23 09:03:21 Ok I'm gonna be serious now. Remember when you put up Architect with gmc for 50, because you thought not a lot would buy it so only a few would have it? After a while already a good 10 Architects were there. What if you have 10 Trial-Mods now eh? I never saw a person pay his employer to get in the job, corruption exists, fine, but blatant paying for a staff rank, come on. Also, you removing Jedi's complaint can't not make me think that you know that this is just wrong. Chip you claim you like this community correct? Not saying you don't, I can't judge you on that, however "in fact it's more likely that new players will stay because there wont be a toxic community that would otherwise drive them away from the server. we should probably thank you.." This doesn't really show how much you care does it? You're literally thanking people for leaving. Is this what you mean by like? Like for you means wanting them to leave? I can't not say that all your recent decisions have done nothing but dig a wider moat between you and the people.
Michael9999995	Date sent: 2017/06/23 09:29:42 Luigi, I think that you should make an archtect+ for ROSS. give him a few more commands like /kill and small stuff like that. That way, he would have a custom rank but he won't be staff. He would be happy, you can have the money, and the community will not be upset.
Everam	Date sent: 2017/06/23 09:29:47 I really hope luigi does an event on the 24th so people will abandon the boycott.
NicNac	Date sent: 2017/06/23 09:47:31 Matt, Jedi requested it and rather than that Micheal, make it so it's a "Helper" rank with no connection to the staff team, but just have all the commands. Ya you can't pay to get in a hotdog making job, but you sure as hell can buy the shit to make hotdogs yourself. Nobody should be complaining about this really, as long as Luigi stays strict about not giving commands back then there should be no issue.
Michael9999995	Date sent: 2017/06/23 09:55:05 Maybe, but I think if it is called architect+, people would truly think that the rank is unrelated to staff. In many servers, helper ranks are staff ranks. So if he got something like architect+, people would leave him and Luigi alone.
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/23 11:34:04 Nic the thing is Luigi has enough money to run the server for at least 2 years and I wouldn't be surprised if he has enough money for 3 years...Which asks the question why is he so desperate for money Final Requests What I want to see (And probs most people) •NEVER to see some buy their way to a staff rank (Unless its a very high up staff member who want to become co owner). Also never see "Special Deals" be done to players. This is thinks like Selling staff ranks and World Edit and powerful commands. •Give Ross a custom rank with as many non staff commands as possible. I think most people wouldn't mind if you have to refund part of the money back to him. •Listen to the player more and especially your own staff members. •sort out the staff board and prioritise getting more EU and AUS staff members (I will stand in as temp staff again when you have sorted this mess out. Until then I wont) If you do these request (Not the last one straight away) the boycott will be called off. Just a word of caution luigi, and I have been telling people not to do this, but people are reporting the server to Mojang for breaking the EULA. Do you really want the server to be shut down cause of this?
Matodir	Date sent: 2017/06/23 13:02:30 Architect+ or maybe MasterArchitect, not Trial-Mod. At first Architect was only an achievable rank, now buyable, but that got accepted as Architect is just a rank. But Trial-Mod, a staff rank that's very hard to achieve, being sold to people for more money, will never be accepted. All your staff, loki, ck, james, susan, shad and all the rest worked hard for their staff ranks, and were good enough to be accepted after their dedication was noted. Now you're selling it for money? If about 10 people report this to EULA, it won't be pretty.
TooeleJedi	Date sent: 2017/06/23 13:55:32 @Matodir Yes matt i did request for it to be removed, do not blame luigi for it being removed, its my fault.
Ruben	Date sent: 2017/06/23 15:50:13 *eats popcorn* Tbh nothing to add here other that the boycott itself is useless, if you want to make a difference, leave the server for 1 month or until they get to your terms. 24 hours won't fix anything, it isn't like Luigi is being paid by the hour by you guys being there. Although a lot more than just 24 hours will have a social impact.
Riddlr	Date sent: 2017/06/23 16:06:26 I'd have to agree with Ruben here. Also, I'd like to add that I feel we should be going about this on the basis of more open discussions with Luigi over all of the issues we have because it's been shown that there's a backing for these issues. If we make one-sided demands without any proper discussion then it'd be even more difficult to sway anyone. Additionally, the use of the word "toxic" on anyone who disagrees with something is simply preposterous as they truly care about the community. The people who are expressing their issues, I feel, are in fact more caring for the community than those who are calling them toxic.
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/23 17:27:45 Riddlr, We have talked to Luigi. I actually did talk to Luigi about the whole thing yesterday to no prevail. I'm not sure why I tried because he isn't listening to his staff team who is against this. "Chip literally the entire server except for you and Ross disagree with this"-Staff Chat. This was Wednesday night so it was before Luigi decided to give back Trial-Mod to Ross.
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/23 17:27:46 opps dupe
Aouldrain	Date sent: 2017/06/23 20:31:53 This is annoying.
thomasjones	Date sent: 2017/06/23 23:09:49 boycott has started
evilghost217	Date sent: 2017/06/23 23:12:45 Leaving the server isn't really going to do much as Luigi doesn't profit from number of players online. If we want to send the message that money can't buy staff ranks, I suggest we limit the number of donations Luigi gets. All we have to do is stop voting: less votes = less people know about the server = less people join = less donations. (Obviously we should all stop donating too) TL:DR: I suggest we all stop voting until this matter is adequately resolved.
Puff30826	Date sent: 2017/06/24 04:30:08 Can I just say that when Architect was added I made a joke that Luigi would start selling mod. I guess he took it seriously. Well... sorry for that xD Also, I guess I'm partaking in this boycott because my computer still won't let me play multiplayer MC.
Presinus	Date sent: 2017/07/06 07:49:48 -1 Boycotting is a whole new level of douchebag. I'm sorry but this is just wrong. Think of trial mod as nothing more than "architect+." The name "trial mod" is just to make it sound cooler.

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