| Author | Message |
|---|---|
 OfficalMinoi |
Date sent: 2017/03/18 13:03:57
I was banned for 1 day for tpaing someone into lava, I come on this mourning to check how long I've got left, and now armz has banned me for 3 days. First of all, my ban was almost up, so you basically added another day, second of all, Fyre was banned for tpaing me into lava, burning me alive without asking me to leave, then lying to the staff, and continued to lie to the staff, and was banned for 3 days. All I did was tpa a dude into lava, and I get the same punnishment? I was honest to Ace, you can ask him, why do I deserve the same punnishment? Why was a 1 day ban changed to 3 days? This is my first pvp bypass ban? I understand armz has a problem with me, but he needs to put personal issues aside when dealing with these matters. Because Firstly, Ace told me I wouldn't be punnished, then he decided to ban me for a day. and now right before I get unbanned, I get banned for an additional 3 days. This really isn't fair to me, all I did was tpa someone into lava and they didnt even die. Fyre did the same thing. AND lied to staff and killed me, and he got the same punnishment. This really isn't fair, but I do understand armz has a problem with me, so I would expect this from him. |
 Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2017/03/18 13:30:17
Rules explained states: "tp killing is not allowed, although tpa killing is allowed" so this means what you did is not okay because it's a dick move, but doesn't deserve a 3 day ban.If your story is correct, and you haven't lied (for example if you told him to tpa for free items), then you should not have been punished. At most you should have been jailed. |
OfficalMinoi |
Date sent: 2017/03/18 14:20:13
I've already been banned for almost a day now for the punnishment, and you can contact Ace. he knows the entire story, and if he agrees, may I please be unbanned? |
 armzngunz |
Date sent: 2017/03/18 15:19:48
I trust that Ace made the right decision. The reason I increased your ban was because someone else had been banned for 3 days for doing the same thing, so I thought it was unfair if you got off easy. |
 thomasjones |
Date sent: 2017/03/18 15:29:28
I feel that the ban is deserved since you did pvp bypass and it wouldnt be fair for you to get a lesser punishment for the same thing that somebody else did |
OfficalMinoi |
Date sent: 2017/03/18 15:58:49
armzngunz, no, Fyre was banned for 3 days for not only pvp bypassing, but he also killed me, and then he lied to Ace. Because of this he was banned for 3 days. On the other hand, I only tpaed someone into lava, I didnt lie or kill anyone. So ace decided to ban me for 1 day, and fyre for 3 days. So this isnt fair to me, please contact ace for the story, and this really isnt fair because we were banned for different things |
OfficalMinoi |
Date sent: 2017/03/18 15:59:44
My ban was supposed to end in 3 hours from now, and armz, do you realize that by banning me for 3 days, you increased my ban to essientally 4 days? Because I already had almost served 1 day and you just added 3 more, so how is that fair? |
 NicNac |
Date sent: 2017/03/19 00:50:00
Neither Minoi or Fyre should have been banned here in my opinion. A small jail at the least. |
 Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/03/19 10:29:15
minoi, you were banned for pvp bypass. you were banned for 3 days, deal with it. i was banned for over a month, and even though i didn't deserve it, i didn't keep whining like a lil' bitch. your ban might have also been e x p a n d e d due to everything else you have done in the past. |
OfficalMinoi |
Date sent: 2017/03/19 14:34:53
Why is nobody understanding what im trying to say? Fyre lied to staff, thats the difference, so he deserved to be banned |
 Techy |
Date sent: 2017/03/19 15:59:49
Right. Here's my logic for tempban appeals.If you have a permban, then appeal away. As permbans can only be ended by appealing, this is perfectly acceptable. If you have a tempban longer than a month, appealing is also acceptable as that is a long time that is hard to wait for. If you have a tempban shorter than a month, then it is not acceptable to appeal. If I said you needed to wait 1 hour before I could give you something, would you post a complain in a newspaper? Just wait it out. I understand it may seem unfair to have an equal sentence to a person who commuted a worse crime, but 3 days is nothing. It's not that much of a deal. JUST WAIT 3 DAYS. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2017/03/19 17:20:30
Techy, anyone is perfectly allowed to appeal any type of ban if they feel they are hard done by.If someone is legitimately abused with any temp-ban, but we turn around and say "just wait it out"... it would be abuse of the entire staff team by ignoring/not allowing an appeal. One of the main reasons ban appeals exist is because the player may feel like their punishment is too harsh. A ban appeal is then set there for a member of staff (in most cases it's someone higher in the hierarchy), probably an admin or the head-admin, ro review. If found that the ban / Temp-ban was abusive, it's removed or decreased. I Also have a few questions: "If you have a tempban shorter than a month, then it is not acceptable to appeal." 1. How long do you consider a month? 29 days? 30 days? 31 days? Or maybe 28 days? 2. At what point below a month does it become 'acceptable' to appeal? One day below a month? 2 days? A week? I'll go ahead and ban you for 3 weeks now techy, but by your logic, you aren't allowed to appeal. Even though you may feel abused. |
OfficalMinoi |
Date sent: 2017/03/19 22:23:13
The last sentence chip mentioned is the exactly the fault in your logic techy. So you're saying if you're banned for 27 days (less than any of the months) for something you didn't do, then you can't make an appeal? That's stupid. |
Techy |
Date sent: 2017/03/19 23:07:32
I'm not saying you can't. I just don't like it when people do.By the way Chip, I won't mind if you ban me for 3 days. |
Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/03/20 04:26:23
appealing for a 3 day ban is bullshit minoi. just sit in your crib and wait |
 Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/20 17:28:20
Not bullshit Asriel. Even if I was banned for 1 hour for this I'd complain. Minoi sent a tpa request to the guy, so for the other guy to go near minoi he accepted the tpa, meaning he accepted anything that can happen next. Now it's not minoi's fault that the other guy was retarded and fell for his trap. Tpa killing isn't against the rules, 1 day is way too fucking much, 3 days is colossal bullshit, maybe 4 hour jail, not even. Sorry I keep mentioning this story, but when me and Shindori were attacked and we defended ourselves we got punished, not the attackers. Webb's pvp rules are motherly shit, so don't ban people for 'breaking' the broken. I'm also excluding the fact that minoi didn't even break rules, so come on staff, stop reaching new levels of bad, excluding chip obviously, he's the only sensible individual apart from minoi here. |
 21leke |
Date sent: 2017/03/21 02:52:30
God damn mat xDtotally agree |
Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/03/21 08:00:50
but this is also on top of every other asshole thing minoi has done |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/21 14:11:58
Minoi could've hacked someone's account, found him in real life and killed him, but that doesn't mean he gets banned for this fuckery. The staff bend their shitty pvp rules however they like constantly. Some get permbanned, some get merely jailed for doing the same thing the other some got permbanned for. Bullshit. Stop. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/21 14:15:49
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Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/03/21 16:33:51
you're taking a ban on a minecraft server way too seriously. i mean, if he was perm banned, or banned for 3 months, maybe that's a little over the top (though i would be happy af). but 3 days, he deserved it. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/21 22:03:06
Nope, not at all. He sent a tpa request, by accepting the tpa request the other guy automatically accepted anything that might happen after. Minoi was just more intelligent. |
NicNac |
Date sent: 2017/03/21 22:25:08
Case in point, neither of them should have been banned because the rules CLEARLY say that TPA killing is allowed, trap or not. This ban was bullshit imo. |
 Tones |
Date sent: 2017/03/22 10:35:32
With assumption while i was really tired i thought this was for his constant pvp logging not a pvp bypass, but, still least it wasnt permanent. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/22 14:52:06
I like how staff either say they're tired or just leave on another staff member when they fuck up.The pvp rules are kingly bullshit beyond all other dimensions of bullshit. Yet staff (excluding Nic) still find false reasons to ban people, just to feel cool. This ban was pointless what so ever. Honestly Nic you have my respect, being a good staff here required balls of steel man. Gg to you good sir. |
Tones |
Date sent: 2017/03/22 15:04:58
Thats a false accusation, when im on theres usually nothing going on for me to ban, so i dont ban people. (edit: changed not to on, i was tired af dont judge me xD) |
 Aouldrain |
Date sent: 2017/03/23 01:02:11
FAKE NEWS! |
Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/03/23 16:11:29
guys, shut the hell up and enjoy the fact that minoi is gone |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2017/03/23 18:24:59
Wow thanks matt, ignore that I also talked about how the ban is pointless and marginally abusive ._. ;=; |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/23 20:08:26
Chip, we already established that you're good on a lot of other threads, I'm just so happy that you're not the only one, but Nic is good too. The thing that saddens is that you and Nic alone can't do much alone. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/23 20:09:09
^ That was my 1000th forum post btw ;o |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/23 20:20:12
Oh and chip, I just remembered, you lied to us, you said you might remove Architect cause of drama but you're really not gonna remove it. |
 ckvoss |
Date sent: 2017/03/23 21:01:40
What did i do Matt :( Nic is barely on anymore anyways |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/23 21:55:52
I just said the 2 that I think are best are chip mostly and nic, doesn't mean that you and all the others are all bad tho. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/23 21:55:53
I just said the 2 that I think are best are chip mostly and nic, doesn't mean that you and all the others are all bad tho. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/03/23 21:56:36
WOW first time in over 1k posts that I double posted |
armzngunz |
Date sent: 2017/03/28 03:10:38
Apparently, as I understood it, the guy being killed had pvp turned off, and minoi killing him with lava or whatever kind of defeats the purpose of the /pvp commandAnyways, why isn't this thread dead yet? |
Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/03/28 03:19:01
idfk. he's unbanned (sadly), and this should be forgotten about |
