| Author | Message |
|---|---|
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 13:03:00
Hello,I have been banned from the server and the forum, I worked out a way to come back to the forum to apologize. Apologize for my horrible attitude. I know, I have had so many chances, too many, I treated everyone like dirt and cried like a little girl when I was faced with the consequences, then I decided to spam the forums as a way of revenge. (I was banned months ago) I haven't played Minecraft or any other games since I was last banned, but since I was banned I lost my beautiful father, which has really changed me. I am a nice guy in real life, but I lost it very easily, something that my Dad hated, he begged me to get help, and now I have that help. I know I have said it many times, but I have changed as a person, for real this time, I have gotten the help I need, anger management. I have learned to treat people how I want to be treated. I was immature, I was horrid, especially when I stupidly spammed the forums, which I fully regret. I hate myself for my actions and regret them. I know not many people will see it this way, and I will receive so much negativity on here, but heck, I understand and I deserve it. I treated you people bad, really bad. But please let me prove to you that I am not who you guys think I am. I have really changed. At the end of the day, I can be rebanned, so why not give me another chance? It's been 5, maybe 6 months, and since then my life has changed so much, I have been trying to find ways to get back on the forum to apologize and get another chance for the last 2 or 3 weeks. I'll understand if I don't get another chance, but if I am lucky enough to get one, I swear on my life I will NOT let you people down again. I messed up enough already. Just a quick off topic question, has the map reset? If I am allowed back on that'd be awesome :D :D Peace, love and happiness, -Wowman2002.. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 13:05:59
What I'm mostly looking forward to if I get back on is making a new ranch for myself, just the survival haha. Gonna sell all my stuff at cheap prices and work from there. |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 14:36:22
+1 everyone did bully him when he was let on last wich made him crazy |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 14:38:21
Thanks for the support Harvey, it's much appreciated. |
CloudyBogdan |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 15:01:30
As much as I don't know what to say to this but....+1 For unban. I will give you the last chance though bro. Fly blue Jay...FLYYYY (It's also a bird) |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 15:03:52
Thank you Bogdan! I see your as crazy as usual! <3 |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 15:34:29
http://webbcraft.co.uk/forum/read_topic.php?id=5306 |
Wolves_rock5651 |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 15:36:35
Eh, what the hell. +1 |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 15:36:46
Please don't post your ban appeal on here, tyyy :) |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 15:43:24
check it out |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 15:46:22
Thank you very much Wolves_Rock5651Harvey, right now isn't my time to get involved in anything controversial :L |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 16:06:49
its not controversial i was wrongly banned |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 16:15:00
Ok Harvey. Good luck with your appeal. :) |
Guiness4 |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 17:35:32
+1 @luigi give it an unban |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 17:43:06
Thank you Guiness4, I really appreciate your positive vote. I really didn't expect all this. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 17:47:22
Also, if unbanned, if possible, can I have my forum account unbanned too? I hate my current name lol |
DatGoodBear |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 19:41:49
+1 |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 19:46:43
Thank you, DatGoodBear, much appreciated <3 |
Pepperpot9 |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 20:08:31
"Omg, let's never unban him again. He was so bad" So many people are giving him the +1 though. |
tylermerg |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 20:59:47
eh i never really knew ya but i can tell you have changed if people who said you should stay banned are changing there minds +1 |
CaptainSpaceSheep |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 21:05:39
I want to +1, but I just physically can't. You've apologised twice before and said that you had 'really changed' and I know it might be different this time, but we've risked it twice before. I'm sorry. |
Guiness4 |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 21:22:24
tbf he never really did much wrong physically, he just said the wrong things... The people that start arguements are gone, as far as I know so Wowman2002 has no reason to be an ass. So if he is unbanned and isn't a problem, it shows he was never the problem. |
Penquinator |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 21:28:10
-1, pretty much the same views as Spyro/Jordan.You seem like you've changed but you seemed like you changed the other times too. I don't wanna kill myself after having to deal with some rubbish which involves you. |
DatGoodBear |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 21:47:56
his dad died. +1 his app, HIS DAD DIED. u have no soul bwish |
Sparqy |
Date sent: 2016/06/16 23:07:29
"My dad died, please unban me." |
Sparqy |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 01:49:09
You've apologized before, and it's extremely hard to find some trust in you when you've made countless efforts to be unbanned after being banned again and again. I want to +1, but it's just hard when you've fooled us on other unban posts as well. If your father did pass, I'm sorry for that, but that shouldn't be taken into account when discussing an unban online that has nothing to do with a deceased family member-- my condolences. Sorry, bud. |
Helperforever |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 05:10:06
+1 I believe you. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 05:49:02
CaptainSpaceSheep, I can always be rebanned. I am not a risk to this server, just another player who used to be a twat and wants to prove himself as a decent person. I really hope you can see it that way.Penquinator, after recent events, I have really changed, more than ever, no relapses or crap like that. I waited almost 6 months to do this appeal so I could become a better person, knowing that if I was unbanned here, it would be my last. Sparqy, I didn't say that, I said that I had changed for my dad that passed away. It'd be sick if I did that. I made a post a few months back explaining the sudden death of my father. I had a short temper which he witnessed many times & wanted me to change, the day he died is the day I started my new life. I got the help I needed. I am not saying this for sympathy or to guilt trip anyone into unbanning me, just so I can prove my motivation. I like to talk about my family online, so I hope you'll have no future problems if I do so, I feel like after nearly 2 years I can talk to you guys about things :) |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 05:50:23
Sparqy a family member dieing is a great point. Let me explain. If one of your parents dies out of no where. Aswell as feeling sadness, guilt and anger you would feel that you should appreciate what you have more and not take it for graanted as it may not be there in a bit (like his dad). This has made him think that all he really had was this server and some of his only friends where here. He has chosen to accept that now and instead of being a 'troll' i reckon that he has had a change of heart. |
miketikel7 |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 06:04:06
I do feel bad for you after your father's death. But... if you don't be an A-Hole and think that your the best, then +1. If you are going to be the way that you where before, -1. You get to pick on this. Just tell me if your gonna be your old self, or your new one. :) |
Beetlejuice71 |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 11:06:33
+1 He's a good boii :D |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 16:43:17
Thanks for all the support guys, you have my word, Mike <3 |
Sauasgeman |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 17:53:58
Abstain... I don't know you much at all |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 17:54:13
Okay, thank you. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 19:09:19
So far 10 +1's and 2 -1's not including Spyros because he didn't really specify? Neutral or negative? |
CaptainSpaceSheep |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 20:08:21
I'm abstaining until I discuss it with others. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 20:12:18
Ok :)Reminder: You love me. ;) |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/17 20:12:35
Are you still a mod? |
Kerochii64 |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 04:24:00
Abstain. Not sure what to think here.Also, sorry to hear about your father's passing, I hope you're alright. And yes, he is still a mod. :) |
stojan44 |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 05:17:12
-1 |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 06:17:44
Thanks for the condolences and information, Kerochii64 :)Sorry you feel that way Stojan44. |
JasonSchonko |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 07:47:37
-1, No. |
Ivy |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 07:54:58
-1, I'm sorry Wowman but theres been a lot of times you were rude, cruel and breaking rules. You've had multiple chances and didn't take any of them correctly, rebanning yourself. This would be what, you're 13th time? No one has no way of knowing what will happen if you were unbanned, would you go back to you're old ways? Probably. So ofc people are superstitious of you being unbanned Even if your father did die, it shouldn't be used as a excuse. We all sorry that it happened so do not take this reply the wrong way. |
JasonSchonko |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 07:56:33
Your* hehe |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 08:03:52
Again, I didn't use my fathers death as an excuse.I am getting unbanned, according to Luigi. Thanks. for everyone's honest opinions, positive or negative :) |
L3genD |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 08:04:02
-1 Sorry, but I can't +1. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 08:06:51
Okay, sorry you feel that way. |
Penquinator |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 09:21:12
I've looked up some old information. Wowman has 50 complaints against him.50! How can we allow someone to get away with this many complaints, not to mention the fact he's had what - 10 ban appeals? I'm sure to say he's the most troublesome player we've ever had. Regardless of if you've changed you still shouldn't be brought back here. Look at it guys; He's doing the same trick as before - He sounds and is acting just like he did before, remember what happened after he was unbanned? He changed for the worse. I believed him last time - this time I've given up. I'll be dissapointed in Luigi if ( or whoever unbans wowman ) considering his past. Past is just as important as present. If it isn't clear. -1. |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 09:24:13
-1 penq sed |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 09:24:24
I am not who I used to be. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 14:13:21
you've said that exact phrase several times before, wowman. |
larsy13 |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 17:05:00
-1 fuck off |
miketikel7 |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 17:31:27
Look, I see Wowman as a different person now, but we cant judge him until we see him on the server. If he acts the same way as he did before, it should be an instant perm ban with no more chances for Wowman. |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 17:45:04
He is like when you have cancer. But then you get the all clear. But a year later it comes back |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/18 21:10:07
Thanks Mike. |
Penquinator |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 00:12:09
Also, he is just bribing us with money. He says he isn't but he defo is; He's saying that if he's unbanned he'll give luigi money, but if he isn't then he won't give luigi money. 30 USD he's 'going' to pay if he gets unbanned - No matter how you look at it this is bribery. |
tylermerg |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 03:11:01
penq i said i would give luigi money too it dosnt work its just donating to donate or not wowman has changed i looked up old info too when i was... the old me trying to get blueroon out of my way so i might have just a slight chance of being unbanned you know what i found he tried hacking hes had multiple complaints and even bullied other kids on different servers it did nothing to affect him i finally changed in to the me now thats how one gets unbanned thinking about what they've done deciding do i want to try and come back? or do i want stay off for good then when you decide you change your act and be nice wowman i believe has done this |
miketikel7 |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 03:25:15
^ Just saying that you will donate isnt bribery, well, we dont know for "certain" yet, but Wowman is the only person that would.BTW, i forgot to change my abstain to a +1, so... +1 |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 07:55:20
Penquinator, since you have twisted my words, I'll put the exact one's here:"Hi. I am saving up some money, and if I am unbanned soon, I will donate next month as a thanks. This isn't a bribe, just a gesture, I really want to get back on and hang out with you guys. I am not the person I used to be." I don't want to argue because I came with a white flag and don't plan to have any problems, but because of them accusations I felt it was needed to clarify. If we could continue with the appeal without more arguments, I'd appreciate that. Thank you guys. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 08:38:53
+1, I think he should be unbanned, and I will explain why. I want him unbanned not because I truly believe he changed into an angel, but because, no matter how much you guys disagree you all treated wowman like utter shit too. I honestly think that no one around will stay calm and chill if about 5 people are offending him or telling him to fuck off. Yes yes, wowman did often overreact, we know this, BUT, eventually you guys became like hitlers to wowman. Random guy does something: he gets 1 day tempban or a small mute. Wowman does something: he gets a permban. Of course this guy made 10 ban appeals, if he gets permbanned if he breaks a dirt block. I think he deserves another chance and not get permbanned for logging on again, and neither should he be banned if 5 people are ganging on him. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 08:44:08
Thank you Matodir, I really appreciate that. |
Penquinator |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 10:19:18
"If I'm unbanned I will donate around £26 which is close to $30"Bribery. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 10:29:52
"as a thanks. This isn't a bribe, just a gesture of thanks". Look, it's not a bribe, but even if it was, can't you see I am willing to PAY to get back on to the server? Do you think I'd PAY to go back on the server to cause damage, start arguments and get rebanned a week later? Penquinator, I promise you, I have CHANGED, just please let me prove it to you. Give me a chance and stop assuming I haven't. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 12:29:26
Penq, pls git gud at reading, he said he would PAY £26 AS A THANKS for getting unbanned. He did NOT say that he's going to pay IN ORDER TO get unbanned.Paying TO get unbanned is bribery, paying as a thanks FOR getting unbanned is another story. This is like buying your friend a lil chocolate bar cause he helped you in your math homework for example. |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 13:44:49
But he made it clear ge was going to give money before he was unbanned. If he was unbanned then he said 'ima give some money as a thanks' its all good. But instead he said 'ima give money after you unban me' meaning he is trying to get luigi to unban him.With the choclate thing the way wowman has done it is said ima get you a choco bar if you help me with my homework |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 13:48:20
I didn't say after. |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 13:52:30
Then "ill give you a chocolate bar. Then you can help me with my homework" |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 13:53:56
-,- |
Penquinator |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 19:24:22
Matodir, I was quoting from somewhere else. Wowman ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?You want a chance to show you've changed? Tough luck - look at all your other 'chances' which have been given to you. If you weren't bribing luigi to unban you, how about you donate on that 18th of July as you said you would and a month LATER we'll unban you. Surely if this isn't a bribery method, and you're doing it because you want to apologize to luigi and the server this won't be a problem :D |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 19:37:57
You don't have a say in that, unfortunately Penquinator, you have given your opinion on my unban and we get your point, you don't need to keep coming back to cause more controversy, but you don't have a say in when I donate and when Luigi decides to unban me. |
Crafty1212 |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 20:19:57
I dunno about this OwO I think I'll say +1 and hope for the best and that you have changed and you aren't lying. ^w^ Good luck to ya! |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 20:39:48
if you donate and are unbanned, i will make it my mission to not allow you to have any rank higher than Member. JS.i already don't trust your mental state and anger issues, let alone if you were given abuse-able commands. |
Penquinator |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 21:09:25
@Chip, we've already said in the chat he won't get any rank above member. - i think - |
DatGoodBear |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 21:29:16
That's not fair. If he likes to build so much you should let him have a rank that lets him have creative. |
thomasjones |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 21:31:19
He was vip+ before he was banned And that didn't have gm c |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/19 22:53:37
He had commands that he could abuse, EG /kick |
Sparqy |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 03:39:49
We've determined that he shouldn't receive anything higher than Citizen, because Member is a trusted rank-- breaking rules tenfold doesn't entitle you to a rank for trusted individuals.If he wants to pay, then let him pay, if he doesn't receive a rank for it he shouldn't be upset because he just wants to help Luigi out. |
Sparqy |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 03:50:18
Bear, what is fair? We've already unbanned him twelve times, and it's making us look terrible. I think someone who's broken the same set of rules over ten times and received a ban for it each time shouldn't be entitled to special treatment once unbanned. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 05:38:02
I fully understand that and have no problem with it, I will donate nevertheless. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 05:40:54
But my mental state is totally fine, Chip, you have no way of knowing otherwise unless you see my in game behavior. As I said, I have and am still getting help so it's not a worry. |
Guiness4 |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 06:13:23
VIP+ doesnt have kick wtf you talking about? |
CaptainSpaceSheep |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 09:05:04
I’m going to have to change my vote. “Chip, you have no way of knowing unless you see my in game behaviour. As I said, I have and am still getting help so it’s not a worry.” And what if your in game behaviour is the same as it was before Wowman? Should we take that risk? We’ve took it before, and what has happened? The same thing! What’s different this time? You keep on saying you’ve changed but haven’t you said that before? I know you could have changed but we can’t take your word this time. I’m really sorry if you have changed, but you have to accept your past. Sorry, but as my final vote I’m going to have to give a -1. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 12:44:28
Keep in mind that these rules that he has broken aren't just rules like rule 3, wowman has broken every single rule. Luigi proved it in another forum post. |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 12:58:57
I am not a griefer or a thief, your not risking anything.. I can always be rebanned. I stand by my statement, he doesn't know my mental state unless I play in game and he interacts with me, which he hasn't. |
JamesSkullBlood Moderator |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 14:05:00
UNBANNED with Luigi approval also wowman you been demoted to citizen. Please don't make us regret this and remember this is your FINAL CHANCE once again UNBANNED |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 14:05:19
i demoted him c: |
Harvey |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 14:41:19
Rip webbcraft |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 14:49:43
Thank you! |
stojan44 |
Date sent: 2016/06/20 17:17:31
And here we can see how the staff sucks balls. 10/10 for the bribe tho. |
Sauasgeman |
Date sent: 2016/06/21 02:34:17
Keep the fuckhole banned please. This is his thirteenth chance. |
stojan44 |
Date sent: 2016/06/21 05:27:10
He has 13 chances and i have 2-3? Hes defo paying for unbans. Weak ass fag kys |
Penquinator |
Date sent: 2016/06/22 23:42:41
I agree with Stojan. |
Sparqy Back-up |
Date sent: 2016/06/23 00:50:48
When will it really be his last chance, James? I agree with Stojan too. When will enough be enough? |
JamesSkullBlood Moderator |
Date sent: 2016/06/23 01:26:28
This will be it, no more unbans after this. if he ever does get ban so far he being good |
WOWMANcommunication |
Date sent: 2016/06/23 05:08:37
I be good af. This is my last chance homies. |
Phaedre |
Date sent: 2016/06/23 12:27:57
This will be it, no more unbans after this. if he ever does get ban so far he being good"This has been said all the previous times too, gg |
stojan44 |
Date sent: 2016/06/23 19:02:15
'this is my last chance'said that like 5+ times. Fucking luigi and his retarded addiction to money. Im seriously pissed off. owner? i'd say a crazy lunatic. |
Guiness4 |
Date sent: 2016/06/25 09:07:05
Why do you keep unbanning this dude anyway? |
XxDJAssasinxX |
Date sent: 2016/07/03 14:33:42
WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!! he got 13 WHAT!!!!!!! he got 13 chances?????? he just kept getting unbanned and rebanned. WTF GUYS!!!!!!!!!! If he got 13 chances, people liek diggs sausageman and me should be given atleast a SECOND CHANCE!!!!!!!!!! we dont have a such a bad and cruel past as him yet we dont have as much chances as him either. And guys. cant you see hes just making the whole dad thing up. I have seen a fukton of peppl use this excuse. its unacceptable. And if your dad really did die. sorry for saying that. hope your alright now :) |
Wowman2002 |
Date sent: 2016/07/03 15:11:56
He did really die. Fuck you. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2016/07/03 15:17:52
DJ I'm never going to allow you to be unbanned. I don't want someone like you on this server.Jay's father really did pass away and shame on you for saying he lied about it and didn't die. |
Sauasgeman |
Date sent: 2016/07/03 16:08:09
And DJ, I do want a second chance but I'm not going to blow my chances by being an asshole to everyone on the forums :) |
Wowman2002 |
Date sent: 2016/07/03 16:35:33
"Keep the fuckhole banned please. This is his thirteenth chance." -Sausgeman. I agree with what you said, but it's bullshit. |
Sauasgeman |
Date sent: 2016/07/03 20:13:26
Wowman that is on paper but that was before I was banned. I am trying to change socially and physically so I'm not a complete asshole and swear in every chance I get, being a douchebag to an administrator and overall being toxic... |
stojan44 |
Date sent: 2016/07/14 06:30:37
Bumping this because im still kinda pissed off. so many -1's and he's unbanned. |
Guiness4 |
Date sent: 2016/07/14 16:32:49
he paid 40$ thats why |
stojan44 |
Date sent: 2016/07/15 09:44:22
Oh yeah,His mom is a prostitute so he gets alot of money to throw around.Also,bump. |
stojan44 |
Date sent: 2016/07/16 10:29:37
Bump :3 |
stojan44 |
Date sent: 2016/07/17 06:23:05
Bump |
Guiness4 |
Date sent: 2016/07/22 20:24:14
HEFTY BUMP IMBOUND |
ARNJ |
Date sent: 2016/07/23 07:39:15
Everyone hates him gets banned *wowman2002 waves the owner money* unbanned real quick 😐 |
luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2016/07/23 11:42:33
Just saying, I never expected him to pay me anything and he never did. Nor was I the one pushing for his unban. |
loki570023 |
Date sent: 2016/07/23 22:02:06
I know he is unbanned now, but ima post anyways, cuz.... i want to. +1, based on the conversation on facebook a while ago, He seems rather better. Totally forgot to post this at the time that conversation occured lol |
stojan44 |
Date sent: 2016/07/25 17:11:26
Bumping. Also,fek off. Bribery. |
Guiness4 |
Date sent: 2016/07/25 22:38:56
Hefty bump on behalf of 70million jewish citizens of glythoria |
Blueroon |
Date sent: 2016/08/06 01:14:53
-1 |
thomasjones |
Date sent: 2016/08/06 11:32:47
Blue he got unbanned then shortly left at his own free will |
Blueroon |
Date sent: 2016/08/06 12:49:57
ok |
bobeatsjoe |
Date sent: 2016/08/07 01:09:24
was about to reluctantly put a +1 with explanation about how i hadnt personally seen much of what happened, but ok.as for stojan: good luck getting unbanned LMAO djassassin: ... |
Michael9999995 |
Date sent: 2016/08/29 20:01:49
Wait wowman left? |
_EnderArrow |
Date sent: 2016/09/25 20:09:38
+1 for everything |
thomasjones |
Date sent: 2016/09/25 20:15:52
Don't bump dead topics. Thanks |
Larus12345 |
Date sent: 2016/09/26 19:14:00
´This is why staff members need a feature where they can close topics if a forumer necroposts on it. |
JesseShee |
Date sent: 2016/10/01 10:38:16
-1 |
Irk_Cipher |
Date sent: 2016/10/11 14:52:38
Hold on, Wowman's been banned 15 times?Ok, that's a bit excessive. -1. So many chances, so little progress... |
