My 5th ban a few days Hours (Higher Staff Corrupt? False ban! Censorship!)

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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/06/25 13:37:10
*Its meant to be "a few days" not " a few days hours" I changed the title whiles making the ban appeal.

DISCLAIMER:Luigi I have this saved on my computer, it will take me 10 seconds to repose it if you delete it :)

Firstly I would like to go through all my bans in the last few days
First ban was a tempban, I deserved it so I have no complaints
Second ban was a tempban for a joke as seen here http://webbcraft.co.uk/forum/read_topic.php?id=7271
Third ban was a tempban which was a innocent mistake, no complaints and I was unbanned
Fourth ban was a tempban someone banned me under armz name when it wasnt armz that banned me. After a short conversation with a staff member I was unbanned
Fifth ban.
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What did I do? Was I talking to people about how to bypass the safe zone to blow spawn up?NO! Jordan (The admin Spyro) was on the server this morning at the safe time as I was and he made a joke to me saying that he was going to blow up spawn. I joined in with the joke. HOWEVER I did say "jks" after I agreed to do it so it couldn't get taken the wrong way(I dont have logs cause I was on minechat).Surely that wasn't why I was banned!And you are correct. I think this is the higher staff (Luigi + Chip, although I think its mainly Luigi) trying to silence me because I have been "Exposing" Luigi. May I add that staff members have been warning me to stop, not because I'm breaking rules but they know that the higher staff members will find any excuse to ban me.

ME EXPOSING LUIGI
On Thursday when everything started to kick off about Ross paying for Trial Mod. Me and other players confronted Luigi about it. During the discussion Luigi offers me money for "being a good staff member". This was after I had called for a server boycott.Luigi has never offered me money so why is he offering me money when i'm literally leading a riot? I know why. To shut me up that's why!

LOGS
[19:30:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **DeoVolente <[Donator]+ Shindori> Daniel are you short on money since you accept donations for staff?
[19:30:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Proxima <[Member] ~Miek> wb peeps
[19:30:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> HE isnt
[19:30:23] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [[Donator]+ Shindori -> me] Quite ridiculous
[19:30:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> I know a little java and a little html5 but its been a while since ive worked with either
[19:30:25] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> xD
[19:30:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> also C++
[19:30:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> he has enough money to run the server for 2 years
[19:30:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Proxima <[Member] ~Miek> woah really?
[19:30:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> yes
[19:30:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Over that tom
[19:30:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Proxima <[Member] ~Miek> damn
[19:30:45] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> What ellie said
[19:30:47] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] brownschool260 left the game
[19:30:48] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> It was 2 years a couple of months ago
[19:30:52] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> wow lots of staff on
[19:30:53] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> why are there no skellys spawning
[19:30:54] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Its gonna be like 3-4 years now
[19:30:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> waves to staff
[19:30:58] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> true lol
[19:31:03] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] The faction Geniuses is now open
[19:31:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **DeoVolente <[Donator]+ Shindori> That makes me question the reasoning behind accepting donations for staff even more
[19:31:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> that's accurate
[19:31:10] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> waves back^
[19:31:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> fail
[19:31:15] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> your work is appreciated!
[19:31:16] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Proxima <[Member] ~Miek> what ever happened to heliopolis?
[19:31:16] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> waves back*
[19:31:20] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Mushroom <[Owner] luigiofthebakery> that money could be used to make the server better
[19:31:22] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Server] TIP: Type /pvp to toggle pvp on and off for yourself to prevent being killed
[19:31:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> True
[19:31:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> like /ignore ability? :O
[19:31:41] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> luigiofthebakery the thing is you never do
[19:31:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *HamSociety <[Architect] ~Dylan> Luigi you should restart the server soon
[19:31:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Irk_Cipher has made the advancement [Isn't It Iron Pick]
[19:31:45] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> someone pls tell me why there are no skellys at /warp skellyxp
[19:31:50] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> LittlePinky Its free
[19:31:55] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Aurora <[Builder] ~IrkCipher> Wait, you can smelt iron tools now?
[19:31:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> tom weren't you just staff yesterday
[19:31:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
[19:32:00] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> the server has been the same for the last 2 years
[19:32:01] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Ck
[19:32:03] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> But Luigi, when you accept money for things like staff and worldedit it hints at the idea of corruption
[19:32:03] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> yes
[19:32:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> You took his position
[19:32:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Proxima <[Member] ~Miek> luigi you should've made an architect+ or something that has acess to more stuff
[19:32:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
[19:32:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Tom was temp adminn
[19:32:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> still
[19:32:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **DeoVolente <[Donator]+ Shindori> Isn't it your own words that said that people should not have to expect anything in return from donating?
[19:32:15] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Until a mod got promoted
[19:32:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Mushroom <[Owner] luigiofthebakery> or it could be given to staff as a reward for their hard work
[19:32:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] PumpkinPiePhD left the game
[19:32:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
[19:32:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> but that would break the EULA
[19:32:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> help pls someone
[19:32:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> probs
[19:32:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> and he threw the server under the bus
[19:32:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> that wouldn't break the eula
[19:32:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> no it wouldn't
[19:32:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **DeoVolente <[Donator]+ Shindori> So you will give the 150$ back to the guys that donated for it?
[19:32:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> breaking the eula is giving it out for game changing priveliges
[19:32:45] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> id love to have jobs plugin tbh
[19:32:46] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> large servers pay their staff
[19:32:55] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] kalakene joined the game
[19:33:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **HamSociety <[Mod] ~KKACeKK> I dont expect pay
[19:33:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> ^
[19:33:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> someone? anyone?
[19:33:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> i don't need it
[19:33:11] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> i have a good job
[19:33:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **HamSociety <[Mod] ~KKACeKK> And I certainly hope luigi knows he owes me NOTHING
[19:33:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> i do, noone will employ me
[19:33:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> The staff are meant to be volunteers
[19:33:22] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> ^
[19:33:23] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Geniuses <[Member] ~Jonis> Anyone selling spongeS?
[19:33:26] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> or else people would just be staff to get money
[19:33:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> they are
[19:33:32] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *WolfWind <[Admin] ~TheJames27> I do not accept it either I mean I do need the money But i am not going to accept to be payed.
[19:33:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> but he wants to give us something back
[19:33:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> then the server would be fucked
[19:33:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Broadcast] /Warp ChipShop for cheap food and rare items!
[19:31:45] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> someone pls tell me why there are no skellys at /warp skellyxp
[19:31:50] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> LittlePinky Its free
[19:31:55] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Aurora <[Builder] ~IrkCipher> Wait, you can smelt iron tools now?
[19:31:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> tom weren't you just staff yesterday
[19:31:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
[19:32:00] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> the server has been the same for the last 2 years
[19:32:01] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Ck
[19:32:03] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> But Luigi, when you accept money for things like staff and worldedit it hints at the idea of corruption
[19:32:03] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> yes
[19:32:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> You took his position
[19:32:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Proxima <[Member] ~Miek> luigi you should've made an architect+ or something that has acess to more stuff
[19:32:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
[19:32:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Tom was temp adminn
[19:32:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> still
[19:32:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **DeoVolente <[Donator]+ Shindori> Isn't it your own words that said that people should not have to expect anything in return from donating?
[19:32:15] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Until a mod got promoted
[19:32:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Mushroom <[Owner] luigiofthebakery> or it could be given to staff as a reward for their hard work
[19:32:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] PumpkinPiePhD left the game
[19:32:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT]
[19:32:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> but that would break the EULA
[19:32:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> help pls someone
[19:32:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> probs
[19:32:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> and he threw the server under the bus
[19:32:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> that wouldn't break the eula
[19:32:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> no it wouldn't
[19:32:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **DeoVolente <[Donator]+ Shindori> So you will give the 150$ back to the guys that donated for it?
[19:32:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> breaking the eula is giving it out for game changing priveliges
[19:32:45] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> id love to have jobs plugin tbh
[19:32:46] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> large servers pay their staff
[19:32:55] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] kalakene joined the game
[19:33:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **HamSociety <[Mod] ~KKACeKK> I dont expect pay
[19:33:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> ^
[19:33:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> someone? anyone?
[19:33:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> i don't need it
[19:33:11] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> i have a good job
[19:33:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **HamSociety <[Mod] ~KKACeKK> And I certainly hope luigi knows he owes me NOTHING
[19:33:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> i do, noone will employ me
[19:33:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> The staff are meant to be volunteers
[19:33:22] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> ^
[19:33:23] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Geniuses <[Member] ~Jonis> Anyone selling spongeS?
[19:33:26] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> or else people would just be staff to get money
[19:33:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> they are
[19:33:32] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *WolfWind <[Admin] ~TheJames27> I do not accept it either I mean I do need the money But i am not going to accept to be payed.
[19:33:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> but he wants to give us something back
[19:33:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> then the server would be fucked
[19:33:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Broadcast] /Warp ChipShop for cheap food and rare items!
[19:33:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> just like when people first started donating
[19:33:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> I was perfectly happy working without pay
[19:33:53] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> he didn't just have donator ranks set up, he gave them perms for being nice and donating
[19:33:55] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> If i was still staff I wouldnt take it
[19:34:10] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Same
[19:34:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> i'm won't, ill tell luigi to keep it for himself
[19:34:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] xboxnoob97 left the game
[19:34:16] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> he deserves it
[19:34:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> ^
[19:34:28] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> where can I get bones bc /warp skellyxp isnt working
[19:34:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *WolfWind <[Admin] ~TheJames27> I will not accept it either
[19:34:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> oh tom youre not staff noww
[19:34:44] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> :(
[19:34:46] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Mushroom <[Owner] luigiofthebakery> tom you could still have some since you were a good staff member for a while
[19:34:47] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> Im pretty sure the EULA says that servers cant be run for profit which means that the money has to be spent on the servers upkeep
[19:34:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> I wouldnt take it
[19:35:01] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> It doesn't say that Tom
[19:35:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> but tom also threw the server under the bus
[19:35:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> Luig you want to know why i was staff
[19:35:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *WolfWind <[Admin] ~TheJames27> i know the money would help me in a lot of ways but I won't take this type of money
[19:35:15] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> Same James
[19:35:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Proxima <[Member] ~Miek> "oo-e-oo i look just like buddy holly, oh oh and you're mary tyler moore"
[19:35:17] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **HamSociety <[Mod] ~KKACeKK> Paying staff can be seen as server upkeep
[19:35:22] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> ^
[19:35:23] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> I was staff because I cared about the server
[19:35:31] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> Because I wanted to help it
[19:35:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Same
[19:35:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> UUUUggggghhhhh
[19:35:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Geniuses <[Member] ~Jonis> Build it then ill claim more
[19:35:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> well you're doing the opposite now
[19:35:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> Becuase I enjoyed being staff
[19:35:50] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> and when I didnt I quit
[19:36:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Citizen]+ KingBlocksalot is now AFK.
[19:36:03] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Glade_Ahonen left the game
[19:36:15] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Geniuses <[Member] ~Jonis> We are also gonna build one :P
[19:36:16] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> If you start paying staff you get rid of those qualities that the staff members have
[19:36:23] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] Frostbite <[Citizen] BallerHQ> how do I get money?
[19:36:26] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **DeoVolente <[Donator]+ Shindori> If all staff from now on will donate their way in, they'll only get their own money back xd
[19:36:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Server] Don't forget to pay taxes with /tax pay
[19:36:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> then the staff are just in it for the money
[19:36:34] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> paying staff isn't really the issue here
[19:36:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> shin
[19:36:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> if he wants to pay for staff, that's fine
[19:36:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> not all staff are going to donate their way in
[19:36:53] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> lol Shin
[19:36:53] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Ck> becuase one person does it that doesn't mean 11 more will
[19:36:54] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *WolfWind <[Admin] ~TheJames27> I have not yet donated once for the server.
[19:36:55] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> the issue is the means of acquiring funds
[19:36:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Proxima <[Member] ~Miek> lol did someone take down the topic that tom made under sugestions about the boycott?
[19:36:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> pay me £50 a day and ill never be offline :P
[19:37:01] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **DeoVolente <[Donator]+ Shindori> Who knows ck
[19:37:06] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> yes luigi did
[19:37:11] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Proxima <[Member] ~Miek> damn
[19:37:15] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Proxima <[Member] ~Miek> rip'
[19:37:16] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *WolfWind <[Admin] ~TheJames27> I litterally haven't donated at all.
[19:37:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Member] ~Ellie> Same James
[19:37:22] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Mushroom <[Owner] luigiofthebakery> don't worry I'll add it back
[19:37:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **DeoVolente <[Donator]+ Shindori> There's plenty of people who'd happily donate for staff ranks, even when they just joined
[19:37:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Erynnos <[Citizen] LittlePinky> ill donate when i find work
[19:37:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Donator]+ ~Tiger> If he acquires money by giving people staff or worldedit, that's the issue. Not whether or not he pays staff.
[19:37:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> ^
[19:37:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> At what shin said


LUIGI'S GREED
Before Luigi created the Architect rank he claimed that that he had enough money to run the server for over two years. Since then he must of got enough money to run the server for 3 to 4 years, which got me thinking. Why would Luigi accept $150 and give someone Trial-Mod when they haven't made a mod app? I think that Luigi is taking money given by generous people who want to support the server. But I don't think all that money is going to server. In fact I think that Luigi is spending the money on things that don't have anything to do with the server.

REPORTING THE SERVER
Many players have reported the server to Mojang. At first I was against this but as I realised that Luigi isn't listening I decided its all that we can do. So I reported the server myself and helped other people do the same by providing the information that they need (I think up to 20 people has reported the server so far, it could be more). Luigi didn't like this and posted this in the Skype chat.
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I have been sharing this image and this has fuelled Luigi's rage to ban me.

CONCLUSION
I think its very safe to say that Luigi doesn't run the server because he enjoys playing minecraft but because he makes money out of it and will do anything he can to stop people.My suggestion is that luigi should step down from being owner to Co-Owner and Armzngunz or Chip becomes the Owner.





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Vango971
Date sent: 2017/06/25 16:51:35
Not sure whether this is useful or not but
[07:08:26] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> Connected with MineChat
[07:08:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Co-Owner] ~ArmznGunz> yo*
[07:08:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> hello
[07:08:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NutsNGuts <[Citizen] ~Robert> Do you wanna see my build so far?
[07:08:33] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> i.
[07:08:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> im back
[07:08:38] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Buklau <[Trial-Mod] ~AAROSSAA> How long have you let it sit?
[07:08:46] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> from my unfair ban
[07:08:48] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Co-Owner] ~ArmznGunz> nice build robert!
[07:08:48] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Geniuses <[Citizen] The_designor> me just finished it
[07:08:56] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Co-Owner] ~ArmznGunz> Tom please be quiet kthx
[07:09:00] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Jordan> hey there thomas
[07:09:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> hey
[07:09:11] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Jordan> wanna blow up spawn with me?
[07:09:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Co-Owner] ~ArmznGunz> this is a ferry nice house
[07:09:16] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> lol sure
[07:09:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NutsNGuts <[Citizen] ~Robert> Thank you :)
[07:09:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> jks
[07:09:22] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Jordan> ok lets go
[07:09:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **RubberBand <[Member] Beetlejuice71> the shop to the left of /warp Venice has good stuff at good prices ;D
[07:09:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> i have to say jks or i get banned
[07:09:39] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Jordan> wait im getting banned now
[07:09:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> lol
[07:09:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **RubberBand <[Member] Beetlejuice71> 3%, goodbye world.
[07:10:00] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Jordan> its just a prank bro!!!!!!11!!11!!!!111!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!
[07:10:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] andyblue100 joined the game
[07:10:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> jords its fine. im getting banned for fuck all
[07:10:22] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NutsNGuts <[Citizen] ~Robert> Armnz
[07:10:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NutsNGuts <[Citizen] ~Robert> Do you like it?
[07:10:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Co-Owner] ~ArmznGunz> ?
[07:10:30] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Co-Owner] ~ArmznGunz> Yes
[07:10:36] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NutsNGuts <[Citizen] ~Robert> :)
[07:10:45] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> like i was just banned in armz name when he didnt ban me
[07:10:57] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Jordan> ik i saw lol
[07:11:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] The faction RubberBand changed their name to Hyporien.
[07:11:22] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Hyporien <[Member] Beetlejuice71> .
[07:11:32] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] The faction Frostbite changed their name to RubberBand.
[07:11:38] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] The faction Hyporien changed their name to Frostbite.
[07:11:39] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> ALSO GUYS I BRING U YOUR DAILY LUIGI QUOTE "and i hope mojang shuts down the server so i dont have
[07:11:48] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> to deal with this crap"
[07:11:51] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *HamSociety <[VIP]+ ~Vango> lol
[07:11:51] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *RubberBand <[Admin] ~Jordan> LOL
[07:11:58] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> i have screen shots
[07:12:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *RubberBand <[Admin] ~Jordan> omg show me
[07:12:02] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Frostbite <[Member] Beetlejuice71> Did he really say that,
[07:12:05] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Co-Owner] ~ArmznGunz is now AFK.
[07:12:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> yes
[07:12:07] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **Frostbite <[Member] Beetlejuice71> ?
[07:12:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] alpacafarm joined the game
[07:12:12] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> i have screen shots
[07:12:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *RubberBand <[Admin] ~Jordan> show me lol
[07:12:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *RubberBand <[Admin] ~Jordan> put em on imgur
[07:12:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NutsNGuts <[Citizen] ~Robert> I'm trapping Armzn in a box :)
[07:12:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] BurntBullet left the game
[07:12:24] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] The faction Frostbite changed their name to JordanSwap.
[07:12:27] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> ill send on skype and upload to imgur later
[07:12:35] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] The faction RubberBand changed their name to Nooo.
[07:12:37] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Donator]+ ~Tom> im not at home im at a friends house
[07:12:39] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] The faction Nooo changed their name to Frostbite.
[07:12:40] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NutsNGuts <[Citizen] ~Robert> Lol!
[07:12:42] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] The faction JordanSwap changed their name to RubberBand.
[07:12:47] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **RubberBand <[Member] Beetlejuice71> Thanks
[07:12:49] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] The faction Frostbite changed their name to JordanSwap.
[07:12:58] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **RubberBand <[Member] Beetlejuice71> Had to do that before my phone dies :P
[07:12:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] The faction JordanSwap changed their name to Frostbite.
[07:13:01] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Jordan> :>
[07:13:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Frostbite <[Admin] ~Jordan> before you randomly leave, goodbye
[07:13:11] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] thomasjones952 left the game
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Shindori
Date sent: 2017/06/25 19:09:49
How dare you oppose God Emperor Friedrich, to Gulag with you!

Nah but jokes aside, this is some next level bullshit
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NicNac
Date sent: 2017/06/25 20:07:10
So you want Luigi to stop accepting donations because he has enough to keep the server up for 2 years? I don't know what's gotten into you now but you fucking suck Tom and I don't like you. -1 and please don't come back.

Edit: I don't like to speak for others, and I don't know Luigi's final opinion, but what I gathered from this is that Luigi doesn't care about the server as much as he used to. He probably "bribed" you to shut up because you are making it seem a lot worse than it is Tom. He probably wants it shut down because you wont stop crying on the server how Luigi sucks and doesn't love us or whatever. We could probably keep the server running if ya'll stopped complaining about it but apparently not. We all have to drive the server into the ground all because Luigi accepted $100 or whatever it was and gave a kid Mod status. I can totally see his mindset too, but apparently no one else can :l.

Edit: Also you went thru with the boycott, why wouldn't you go through with griefing spawn? Jk doesn't mean shit Tom. You've had 4 chances to understand this. You dont email an airport saying "LOL IM gonna bring a bomb to you!!!!! JKJKJKJKJKJ LOOOOOOOOL"
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ckvoss
Date sent: 2017/06/26 00:34:44
^^^

Tom why are you trying so hard to make luigi quit?

You are the leader of the downfall of webbcraft.

And for what? Because some guy donated 100$ and got trial mod? I thought I knew you. That you were my friend. But after seeing what you are doing I'm starting to change my mind

You've changed Tom.
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Aouldrain
Date sent: 2017/06/26 01:15:43
Still not a reason to be banned. This is fucking unbelievable. +1
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Michael9999995
Date sent: 2017/06/26 01:36:11
I'm with aould on this one +1
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DanTheCook
Date sent: 2017/06/26 04:21:34
1. Go fuck yourself.
2. If you don't like the server, then stop playing on it. Piss off and go find another sever to dedicate your time to.
3. Luigi, or any god damn person, doesn't have to be solely motivated by good will, or a sense of comradery. People are allowed to run things for money. I'm sure Luigi at some point enjoyed the server, but I would fucking hate the server if I was in charge of such a fucking ungrateful community.
4.As for the donated staff ranks, I do see your point of view. But its not pay-for-OP. They must go through a trial period. What player would donated a large sum of money just to fuck it up and get perm banned. And, if a player was, for some God forsaken reason to do that, the plugins have evolved to a point where any damages done could be quickly reverted.

WFY, for any OG's out here, thomasjones952 = Saraku V2
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belgnbor
Date sent: 2017/06/26 06:22:55
Abstain, I can understand where your coming from and why you are so pissed off. However, considering you were just banned for starting a boycott if I was owner I would not take the chance if it was a joke or not. In the end whether we agree with what Luigi has done or not, he is the owner and he can do as he likes. I do feel he is a little out of touch with the game, staff and players lately, maybe he's busy with real life uni, work & life.
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luigiofthebakery
Moderator
Date sent: 2017/06/26 07:05:25
The reason you were banned was because you clearly have no intentions of contributing anything positive to the community, and will only grief or harass players and attempt to do damage to server. It's my responsibility to make sure the server is a safe place where people who want to have some fun playing can do so with others.

I have never asked anyone to donate, and I don't expect anyone to donate, because I have enough money saved up from donations to pay for the server. I don't think this should be a reason for me to refuse donations though. Circumstances could change, I want to have the ability to be able to upgrade the server if it needs to, and I don't want to have to be reliant on new donations each month to make sure the server stays up. Moreover, donations could be used to enhance the server and player's experiences on it.

I've put a lot of time and effort into maintaining the server and making sure it stays up and running smoothly. I know our staff team has also put a huge amount of their time and effort into helping others and making the server a more friendly and welcoming place. Every server needs a great staff team, which is why some servers pay their staff: it's an upkeep cost.
Therefore I can understand why some staff members might feel upset about me hoarding all the donations. After all, it's the server's money, and not mine. Even though the server can't afford to pay staff on a regular basis, I offered to reward staff members for their hard work and contributions by paying them a portion of the donation money. Most refused, saying that they understand it's a volunteer position and they don't expect to be paid. In fact, I too consider myself to be a volunteer which is why I haven't spent any of the donation money on anything unrelated to the server.

So why then do you want me to not accept donations? I can only think of one reason, and it's that you don't want the server to remain online, or you don't want the server to be a satisfactory place for players to play on.
It's disappointing to see that it's come to this, how if you can't force your skewed views on others, you try to selfishly sabotage other's experiences on the server. If you don't like the server, don't play on it, and don't bring toxicity to the forums or the comminuty. It really disgusts me how some people go to the lengths they do to ruin other player's experiences on the server.

I will do everything I can to make sure Mojang doesn't shut down the server, because I have a responsibility to the server and the players who play on it. If that means the server can't accept donations anymore, then so be it. But if that means the server has to close in a year or so due to lack of funds, then so be it.

But guess what? Mojang may end up closing the server anyway, because some people say the EULA thing was just an excuse for them to transition more servers and players over to Minecraft Realms so they can get more money.
If this happens, all I can say is that I did my best, and there is nothing else I could have done. Of course I will be sad if the server closes, but I'll also be relieved that I won't have to worry about it anymore, I won't have to check twice a day to make sure it's online, I won't have to make sure the plugins are working with each new update. And I won't have deal with those who want nothing more than to see the server go down.
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galbby5
Date sent: 2017/06/26 10:07:35
I have to side with Luigi here. Tom, it was incredibly close-minded of you to report the server to the Eula. Some of us want this server to stay up, and just because you don't want that to happen doesn't mean that it has to be that way. I don't think that buying trial mod is okay, but reporting it to the Eula is not cool
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/06/26 14:48:42
CAN I JUST SAY SOMETHING

reporting the servet doesnt result in the closing of the server.If you read what mojang say, they state that they will talk to the owner.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/06/26 14:48:43
Thats really helpful vargo <3 much love.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/06/26 16:31:47
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/06/26 17:19:44
Question and Answer Time

"So you want Luigi to stop accepting donations because he has enough to keep the server up for 2 years?" -Nic
Hell no! I'm very happy for Luigi to accept donation however there is a line, and that line is when you can pay your way to a staff rank. other wise I don't have a issue with it.

"So why then do you want me to not accept donations? I can only think of one reason, and it's that you don't want the server to remain online, or you don't want the server to be a satisfactory place for players to play on."-Luigi
The exact opposite. also what I said above ^^

"It's disappointing to see that it's come to this, how if you can't force your skewed views on others, you try to selfishly sabotage other's experiences on the server. If you don't like the server, don't play on it, and don't bring toxicity to the forums or the comminuty. It really disgusts me how some people go to the lengths they do to ruin other player's experiences on the server."
I did not forced anyone to do the boycott and Im not trying to get the server shut down. Also what I said before.

Also you went thru with the boycott, why wouldn't you go through with griefing spawn? Jk doesn't mean shit Tom. You've had 4 chances to understand this. You dont email an airport saying "LOL IM gonna bring a bomb to you!!!!! JKJKJKJKJKJ LOOOOOOOOL
Maybe cause I have no reason and no wish to grief spawn and I keep making the joke cause its funny that I keep getting banned over it. Kinda a difference between a airport, which is literally ISIS dream place were they could kill 300+ people in one go and a minecraft server were you can break virtual blocks and create a 10 second job for staff to roll it back.

I will do everything I can to make sure Mojang doesn't shut down the server, because I have a responsibility to the server and the players who play on it. If that means the server can't accept donations anymore, then so be it. But if that means the server has to close in a year or so due to lack of funds, then so be it.
Please explain the image that I posted showing you saying "I hope Mojang shuts down the server so I don't have to deal with this crap"
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Ruben
Date sent: 2017/06/26 17:52:57
HAHA! Now you see how much of a backstabbing bitch Tom is. Still I'm going to side with him on this one, at least partly. He has some things right. Please do explain the chat screenshot Luigi, we would like to know better your intentions as you try to indirectly deny them with your reply. At least be honest for fuck sake.
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Goose
Date sent: 2017/06/27 02:56:23
So much fucking reading I hate potato for making me read this shit, but I'm with lugi on this one its no harm in giving the guy a guaranteed chance at staff if he shows how much he wants to contribute by making a generous donation. Clearly shows he's not going to mess around and fuck it up unless he's rich as dicks in which case the damage can be roller back in a heart beat.
-Goose
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Goose
Date sent: 2017/06/27 03:03:03
Plus who really gives a shit if he keeps the donations or not, people don't pay to give to the server they pay for the permissions and perks of that money. Like honestly its a free to play fucking server don't be dumb idiots and complain if you didn't donate a penny. Like "uh this is where you draw the line" acting like you have run servers before and if you had they must not have nearly been as successful as this one because you'd still be putting a shitload of time into it like Luigi. Which is even worse if he doesn't particularly enjoy the game anymore, he's doing it for you all - without you the server wouldn't be up the extra money from donations is payment for his troubles if you ask me, if he didn't truely spend any of the profits then he's a legend cause everyone else who pretends to be a saint would. Hope this makes sense I'm tired.
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Goose
Date sent: 2017/06/27 03:11:40
Drama queen tom fku
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Everam
Date sent: 2017/06/27 11:21:40
This is what we call "Going too far", attacking luigi like this was a bad move, simply being persistent but polite would have a much better impact on this situation.

Admittedly luigi shouldn't have sold a staff rank, but why is it such a big deal? He didn't think it would have such a huge backlash.

Quite simply, don't sell more staff ranks, create another rank for $100 with some amazing commands and such, and leave this topic in the past.

It is not for me to say what should be in the rank, I don't even know if my opinion is the best one, but that's all this is, my opinion.
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Everam
Date sent: 2017/06/27 11:22:06
Oh and +1 for being unbanned, if he calms down a little.
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ckvoss
Date sent: 2017/06/27 13:11:45
That's the thing everam, there isn't any more commands to give over architect.
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Vango971
Date sent: 2017/06/27 15:28:46
I'm going to +1 this as although I think both sides made bad decisions, from what I saw in game Tom was clearly joking. I feel it was wrong of him to call a boycott and I think that was a rash decision made in the spur of the moment. On the other hand, from what I can tell Ross wanted a special rank not trial-mod, but Chip insisted, Luigi agreed and now we are in this mess. I feel a better solution to this would be to discuss it with the other staff members, making sure they agreed with the final outcome, whether it be a refund or some special rank. (Something like Architect+) I guess I feel that if more time had been taken in the decisions on Ross, and more people agreed, the community backlash would not of happened. To round off I think that Tom's ban should be downgraded to a long temp ban and another solution to giving out Trial-mod.
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Everam
Date sent: 2017/06/27 18:07:28
Couldn't some new plugins be added? New ranks would have something to gain then.
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OfficalMinoi
Date sent: 2017/06/27 18:10:14
DO YOU SITLL THINK HES A FUCKING HONORABLE STAFF LUIGI HUH?
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OfficalMinoi
Date sent: 2017/06/27 18:15:11
On the other hand, Tom, paying people to get them to shut up is called business so I dont blame luigi if he tried to pay you to shut up, shoulda just banned you before but hey thats his choice

so now go bac kto my tom abusing the fuck outta me post and tell me he was doing what he thought was responsbile
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Puff30826
Date sent: 2017/06/27 18:21:31
Minoi, paying people to keep quiet is called bribing, not business. If someone tries to do that in a court of law they would get punished.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/06/28 19:31:12
I am still banned.

also I'm disappointed Luigi hasn't replied again.
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sniffsnuff
Date sent: 2017/06/28 20:14:21
-1
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JT84
Date sent: 2017/06/28 21:09:16
Abstain. I liked Tom better when he was quiet in the chat and no dumb conspiracy theory's to take the server down where afoot. Luigi accepting donations is fine as long as money doesn't influence his decision for who should be the next mod or admin its fine. The boycott is dumb af and should just be abandoned. This is all stupid just hug and makeup.
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OfficalMinoi
Date sent: 2017/06/29 00:06:47
Puff u gotta do wat u gotta do
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Puff30826
Date sent: 2017/06/29 02:16:28
Minoi, that is the dumbest logic. So I could go murder someone and get off scott free if I tell the cops "I did what I had to do"? Bribing someone to stay quiet is not something you have to do, it's shady, and makes you look unprofessional.
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Hrvy
Date sent: 2017/06/29 11:59:19
Ha cancer

First let me say that luigi you are wrong by saying "I have never asked anyone to donate, and I don't expect anyone to donate, because I have enough money saved up from donations to pay for the server"

You dont force anyone too but you do imply a need for donation as the only way to recieve privalege here is by donating. Say i only gave privelage to white people then say im not racist.

So if you gave everyone the same priveleges then relied on them to donate out of kindness that would be ok. However i do not have a problem with your set up since the server isnt a charity and in fact your buisness. It should have a way of earning income to better itself aswell as profit the people who own it.

So yeah agree with it just not that statement big guy. Tom dont be a nob ok. And luigi accept its a buisness not charity
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Michael9999995
Date sent: 2017/06/30 03:23:53
How about we do what we did to Wade a few years ago? We could give Ross their own rank named..... [Ross]. It could have all the perms of an architect but still be a personalized rank, which was what Ross wanted in the first place.
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OfficalMinoi
Date sent: 2017/07/01 01:29:39
Puff you think this type of stuff is daises and sunshine? its how you stay in power. Now this is just a minecraft situation so its a bit stupid but in the real world you have to do shit like that. Is it shady? yes. but as the great Italian Niccolo Machiavelli said "Politics have no relation to morals".
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Aouldrain
Date sent: 2017/07/01 02:43:01
Minoi, as a wise man once said

"If you have to bribe somebody for something related to minecraft, you're in the fucking wrong"

That wise man is me.
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ckvoss
Date sent: 2017/07/01 11:22:48
Mike, that's donating 100$ for a new prefix.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/07/04 06:38:03
bump
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/06 15:46:21
-1 This guy is a nut. This is the same bs I hear from conspiracy theorists and flat-Earthers. The Mushroom Company will not benefit from such people. I know what it's like to be a leader. Please don't burden them, they work harder than you think.
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Aouldrain
Date sent: 2017/07/06 18:06:16
Presinus, you can't have someone banned for being a nut. He was unjustly banned, and that's that.
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Andyblue100
Date sent: 2017/07/06 19:37:24
+1 good luck man this is bullshit I've experience some bs on here with admins as well. Again good luck to you and hope you get unbanned.
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Lanky
Date sent: 2017/07/07 00:34:00
Tom, You were one of the first people I spoke to on the server and a good friend so naturally, you are missed by me. While I'm sure some of your points may be valid I think there is a time and a place. You are trying to become some sort of cult hero and create drama in a server that is purely for enjoyment of players and fun. Despite having little interaction with Luigi I am convinced he acts in the servers interests and not that of greed (same for the rest of staff). Like he said, what he is doing is not easy and at the end of the day this whole community including your drama would be obsolete without him. I truthfully hope to see you on the sever in the future but not with your current mentality towards creating a positive community.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/07/08 18:23:51
How much will it cost me to be unbanned?
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OfficalMinoi
Date sent: 2017/07/09 01:52:23
haha this loser wants to buy himself an unban, go get a life you faggot
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NicNac
Date sent: 2017/07/09 03:20:04
Hate to agree with minoi but that is kinda worse than buying staff lol.
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Aouldrain
Date sent: 2017/07/09 06:00:28
Changing to -1, now that I go over this forum post, this whole thing reeks of "I want to lead the revolution and go down in history" I'm sorry tom, but until you change your attitude, I'll be -1ing.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/07/09 12:14:59
Me asking how much a unban would cost was a joke...

Also aouldrian I never will or never wanted to "I want to lead the revolution and go down in history". What i want to see is change cause I and others are not happy with how the server is being run and I care about the server and thats why i want to see it become better.
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/10 06:04:58
Why don't you get yourself a server and run it the "right" way? Show us Webbcrafters how wrong we are by making a better server. I'd gladly play both servers.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/07/10 07:28:54
Maybe cause i dont have the money Presinus.

Also the idea of go make your own server and prove us wrong is a pretty stupid. Its like saying stop complaining about the government and go make your own government to prove us wrong
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/13 15:46:12
Do you think Luigi just picked his money out of a tree? Get a job. Work hard, get paid.
Also, when people complain about the government, I do tell them to run it their self. 'Cause I know they can't, so they should quit complaining about what others can do, as I know for sure they can't.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/07/13 18:14:29
Or you could protest againts your goverment... just saying, but it kinda works
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Happyfarmer69
Date sent: 2017/07/13 22:16:41
Protest is ok but revolution is not and the fact that you say that you were joking but weve found out how you burnt the spawn flag. Also you ve been only hostile to people that dont agree with you and you had multiple chances to get back but you kept bitching and being a annoying and a threat to the server. In addition to this about the jokes that you make about paying to get unbanned etc ive got news for you. Ross is being a great staff member and a core member to our community too. He has helped lots of people and he manages his responsibilities like a pro. In addiotion to this even if he paid or not, which idc if he did or not, its not your bussiness to say if its wrong or not. Luigi can do whatever he wants on the server. And do you thing that Mojang would do anything about anything so harmless? Like coman Mojang is a company that has as a goal to earn money so that means that the server will not get affected. So that means that you only caused chaos because you wanted to and because you dont know how to state your opinion in more polite ways.
-1 ofc. Sorry tom but youve changed a lot and idk if i like you anymore
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/14 03:42:01
Thomas, if your life depended on living up to Luigi, your family would be mourning your loss right about now. Protesting is weak. Be a man, work hard and hope that maybe, just maybe you might have protesters on your forum page for your website for your server one day.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/07/14 20:33:09
@Happy Farmer

Yea I was joking to blow up spawn and yea I did burn the flag messing with armz but he kinda took it the wrong way and banned me. Opps :o .

Anyways I dont remember saying that this is a revolt or revolution and I've never said it on the forums so that's other people calling it a revolt/revolution I see it as a protest.
You can even check here http://webbcraft.co.uk/forum/search_up.php

I'm glad to hear that Ross is doing well :) The issue is that this isn't the first time this has happend Happy. If my sorces are correct another player by the name of JesseShee paid their way to mod and they were massively abusive for a long time.You say that I've changed, I promise you I haven't its just that you have never seen this side of me before. Months ago when Asriel said that was going to buy Co Owner I threatened to kick off if he did. However he didn't. Lets just say that Asriel did by co owner I would of done exactly what I did in this case.

I disagree with you Happy when you say "Luigi can do whatever he wants on the server. And do you thing that Mojang would do anything about anything so harmless? Like coman Mojang is a company that has as a goal to earn money so that means that the server will not get affected."
Mojang does care because the EULA states
"You are allowed to accept donations

You are allowed to accept donations from players. You can thank them publicly or in-game, but can’t give preferential treatment for donating. You are not allowed to restrict gameplay features in an attempt to make money.

You are allowed to provide in-game advertising or sponsorship opportunities

You are allowed to sell in-game items so long as they don’t affect gameplay
We don’t mind you selling items in game, but they must be purely cosmetic. Pets, hats, and particle effects are OK, but swords, invincibility potions, and man-eating pigs are not. We want all players to be presented with the same gameplay features, whether they decide to pay or not."

And its not harmless because its Mojangs intellectual property. And Mojang makes no money from this server.

Also I'm not creating "Chaos" because I don't know how to state my opinion in more polite ways and I defiently dont do it cause I want to. I do it because Ive tried to talk to luigi about it and so have others but he doesn't care about what the players have to say as long as he is making money off the server.

I wouldn't mind that luigi makes money off the server IF he was honest about it. The server and forum only costs under £10 a month roughly. Luigi if he spent all the money on the server and forum upkeep. I Luigi claimed to have enough money to run the server for over 2 years before he added architect. and now there is at least 10 architects so he has enough money to run the server for the next 6 year. if he has all this money why does he need to accept 150 dollars? because its going in his own pocket. He could of refunded Ross and admit that chip had made a mistake (And chip does admit it) but he is blinded by his own personal wealth. And its so obvious but he denies and denies and denies it.

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armzngunz
Date sent: 2017/07/17 16:23:20
#mojang communist confirmed

+1 unban, we need the trigger'd guy back.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/07/17 17:18:35
Thanks dad! I mean armz.
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Tones
Date sent: 2017/07/18 01:56:09
I agree +1 im getting annoyed with ck being triggered all the time XD.

Plus I miss the bits of mayhem you cause when your on, the servers a lot more boring without you!
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belgnbor
Date sent: 2017/07/18 02:46:35
+1 time to come back, I truly believe he would not harm the server in any way, he like a few of us just didn't agree with what happened and got a little over heated. Always a good staff member.
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Aouldrain
Date sent: 2017/07/18 04:09:24
+1 I like chaos, it's what gives me pleasure.

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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/07/18 19:36:12
Thank guys!
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/07/22 18:55:07
Bump the summer holidays have started bois
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/26 04:53:13
Bumping to remind others of what you are like.
You complain about the food at a restaurant, but you can't cook nearly as good as the chef.
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Hrvy
Date sent: 2017/07/26 06:44:27
Wise words from a thick person
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/27 02:47:05
I was relating Tom to my grandmother to be honest.
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Puff30826
Date sent: 2017/07/27 04:09:30
Presinus, your comment doesn't make sense. Just because he can't cook doesn't mean he can't tell that food tastes bad. You don't need to be a chef to taste bad food. He can say something is bad without being a specialist in said thing.

I agree with him. Letting someone donate for staff was a stupid decision and shouldn't have happened. Should he have done what he did, no, but he doesn't have to run his own server to critique how someone else runs their's.
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/27 05:24:11
Must be a culture difference.
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/27 05:43:18
Whether or not something makes sense is a matter of perspective. Don't try to tell me what makes sense what doesn't.
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Ruben
Date sent: 2017/07/27 12:13:09
It DOES not make sense, so you're basically saying everyone should be chefs? Do you often go to restaurants? I assume you have never returned food because it was bad, afraid that the chef would just scream at you: CAN YOU DO BETTER?
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2017/07/27 13:55:52
What Ruben said.
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/27 14:52:44
If I can do better, I may consider complaining. Otherwise I'd be a hypocrite.
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Puff30826
Date sent: 2017/07/27 15:04:46
So what your saying is that if a chef gives you bad food, you just have to deal with it because "Oh, I can't do better"? That doesn't make any sense.
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Ruben
Date sent: 2017/07/27 15:14:11
She clearly hasn't paid for food yet lmao
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/28 06:33:33
Don't tell someone they're doing a bad job if you couldn't do better.
Assume the possibility that the job was done such way for a reason.
And as I said, sense is a matter of perspective. You aren't the protagonist to define what makes sense and what doesn't.
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Ruben
Date sent: 2017/07/28 12:04:22
Get out of that little mindset of yours and come to the real world, wow.
I bet if the chef served you dogshit with a nice topping, you would just eat it and not complain because you couldn't do the topping as good as they did.

Never heard of "common sense" eh?
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/28 17:54:02
Real world my ass. I work 50x harder than you for far less pay, I have experienced far more losses than you, I'm in the fucking Canadian military, don't you try to tell me what the fuck is real and what isn't you waste of matter!
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Ruben
Date sent: 2017/07/28 19:25:20
Oh yes, assume you know me and what I've experienced in life, that's great.
"I work 50x harder than you for far less pay" - That just means you're a busy idiot, do I care? No.

But OH NO! WE GOT A BADASS OVER HERE!!
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Claims she's in the military, yet she has time to come on the server AND WEBSITE and just annoy everyone trying to enlight us with her fake knowledge. Bet you didn't even got past basic training eh?
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Puff30826
Date sent: 2017/07/28 19:33:03
Wait, Canadian? I thought you said you lived in Brazil.
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Woflie_
Date sent: 2017/07/28 19:59:57
Guys, this is going off at a tangent don't you think?
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Aouldrain
Date sent: 2017/07/28 21:54:44
Be careful guys, don't get a paper cut from the VICTIM CARD :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/29 02:41:28
Ruben, it seems you care quite a lot about me seeing as to you comment soon after I do. How about I sent you a pic of me so you don't have to jerk off to the text on the forums?
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Ruben
Date sent: 2017/07/29 06:35:42
Uh, no thanks, I don't wanna break my screen.
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Presinus
Date sent: 2017/07/30 02:50:16
Then put a mask on.
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CaptainSpaceSheep
Date sent: 2017/07/30 08:40:39
Mask off
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nuddel365
Date sent: 2017/08/06 23:39:26
well i like you thomas so id like to give you the benefit of a doubt but the thing about eula saddens me plz dont try to close this amazing coomunity and dont say luigi tries to silence u when he only wants the best for the server

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