| Author | Message |
|---|---|
 Yoshkiksar |
Date sent: 2017/05/22 22:56:18
So Eidahn gave out about 11 mob aheads achieved through /smite even though it violates rule 8.    |
 JamesSkullBlood Moderator |
Date sent: 2017/05/22 23:31:41
Thank you for the report!His /smite was removed. Until next time this is your Admin with OP signing out -JamesSkullBlood |
 Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/05/23 14:35:14
This is sad. >Someone uses smite to get some heads. Smite perm removed. >Architect severely abuses gmc. Nothing at all. |
 thomasjones |
Date sent: 2017/05/23 15:35:40
I dont think using smite to get heads should be classed as abuse unless he was spamming it.I disagree with him handing the heads out thou |
 Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/05/23 16:41:59
wait. it is illegal to sell heads obtained via smite? i didn't think so. if this is true, please, someone remove any heads that may be left in my shop. |
 NicNac |
Date sent: 2017/05/23 16:47:35
That's kinda dumb. What advantage in the game does a creeper head give beside money? I mean is it abuse if I give a friend a couple stacks of iron? Seems a bit harsh imo.Edit: he should've gotten a warning, or a reminder of the rules because I did not know that was not allowed. |
 ExplosivePotato_ |
Date sent: 2017/05/23 17:16:45
^^Warning First Wasn't that severe Creepers heads are only for decoration and making banners |
Yoshkiksar |
Date sent: 2017/05/23 20:50:02
To be fair I warned him not to, and I'm fairly sure he's had his /smite removed before.@explosive by that logic that means architects would be able to give them out since they're only for decoration and making banners |
Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/05/23 21:00:13
not if they were obtained via creative menu. people can still get heads without creative with /smite, so it's not like you can spawn in mass amounts of them within seconds. i mean, if you want a zombie head, you have to find a creeper, charge it with lightning, and lead it over to a zombie that isn't gonna die (if it's day time), and blow it up. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/05/23 21:16:14
James just because you were inactive as balls for months it doesn't mean that when you're back it's like a dictatorship.1 mistake, the poor victim is slayed. Also Yosh, dick move to report Eidahn for giving out cosmetic items, I know you joined the majority so you gotta be a bit butthurt, but cmon, he was just being a friend. |
 Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2017/05/23 21:44:50
i don't think a removal of the perm was abuse, but i also think it was some-what necessary.Im not involved in Eidahn's perm removal, i just see both sides to this and feel like as the head-admin, i should share my opinion. From a staff's point of view, this is a good reason to remove the perm. Donator rules clearly state that they should not use their permissions to the benefit of others (smite to get the heads). From a player point of view, maybe Eidahn was not aware of this donator rule and was just trying to be nice. there is no system in place to force anyone to read the donator rules before gaining the rank, so it can easily be over looked. Having said this; it should be fairly obvious that smiting creepers like that for the heads, and then giving them out for FREE is against some form of rule. Any form of abuse results in a punishment, if this was Eidahn's first offence he may have gotten a warning, but i believe as he has caused some complaints these last few weeks, his punishment was taken a level higher. |
Yoshkiksar |
Date sent: 2017/05/24 00:01:09
How is it a dick move to report a player for breaking the rules, would it be a dick move if I reported an architect giving out cosmetic items? And Chip, I specified that giving the heads out would break donator rule 8 to him, he neglected this and basically said, well donators set warps and change time for people and I do agree that the rule has some grey areas regarding those. |
Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/05/24 00:19:55
you staffholes are being way too strict with shit. i mean, he smited some creepers and gave away a few heads, WHICH DON'T BENEFIT ANYONE WHATSOEVER, so you took away his perms? what the actual hell is wrong with you? i mean, chip, you sell barriers in your shop, though those are creative items that can't even be obtained legit. why do you punish others for the same things you do? |
 Zedcall |
Date sent: 2017/05/24 01:14:28
Once again, staff do not stand to make a profit from selling items like player heads and barriers. They sell them to make it accessible to players at a price where they don't become worthless. Luigi himself oked the barriers as well. |
Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/05/24 01:34:02
eidahn isn't making a profit either |
Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/05/24 01:35:34
you guys say that this server is supposed to be as close to vanilla survival as possible, so non-legit items shouldn't be accessible to players at all |
Yoshkiksar |
Date sent: 2017/05/24 01:43:14
Pretty sure zed was commenting about just the barrier selling |
 luigiofthebakery Moderator |
Date sent: 2017/05/24 02:16:31
The barriers are mainly to allow players to protect item frames, and are sold at a decent price in a controlled way. The money earned from this also isn't given away for free or used for a staff member's personal gain, it is either used for the server as a whole or destroyed.If Eidahn had been selling the heads for a high price it wouldn't have been so bad, but the fact that he was giving them out for free makes them worthless, and detracts from any challenge players might want to undertake to obtain them legitimately. |
NicNac |
Date sent: 2017/05/24 02:26:19
Asriel mate calm tf down. Chip's second sentence says he has nothing to do with this. As an extension to my opinion, I still feel he should've gotten a warning, as taking away a command is more severe than a ban, because with a ban you at least have a chance of coming back, while with a perm removal you are garunteed 100% to never see it again. Thus, I see it as a tad harsh. |
Asriel🍆 |
Date sent: 2017/05/24 04:17:21
"it is either used for the server as a whole or destroyed." - Luigiwell damn. that escalated quickly. also, it's not the fact that he isn't gaining money for them, it's the fact that players can get these creative items at all, even if they are for protection. if chip can sell an invisible, indestructible block that is unobtainable in survival, i think a few creeper heads (which can be obtained in survival, but not easily without /smite) should be legal without punishments. the only time someone should be punished for giving out items (or selling them) is if they were spawned in, or mass produced via farms. |
 Eidahn |
Date sent: 2017/05/24 17:19:41
i gave away 3 creeper heads, 2 where to a player who had access to smite (a donor+) and 1 to a player who put it on an armor stand. I cant remember the names of these players but i can easily get their names with logs. i think it is harsh to remove my smite command for giving away 3 heads that hold no monetary value because they can just buy them for like 100$ from cc or armz's shop. |
 Michael9999995 |
Date sent: 2017/05/26 03:10:24
I would have jailed him or given him a warning. Removing his /smite was a little harsh. I would give his smite back but confiscate the heads or charge those that were given the heads money. |
 Dragon |
Date sent: 2017/05/26 14:12:35
Don't forget Michael, the staff team have reached such a ridiculous level of stupidity that they automatically jump to perm removals. I can't remember the last time a warning was given out first. Normally, if they do get the perm back and are given a warning, it's after an extensive amount of shit from the community...May I add, that I have seen staff/architects spawning in things like Shrek heads and placing them around everywhere. I never saw them get punished - I mean, it must be because players above Donator+ are holy or something. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/05/26 15:35:54
Dragon, above Donator+ is Architect, Architects donated 50, so obviously they are treated like gods.The only time Architects get warned is when the community bombards the forums with complaints or multiple replies against the said Architect. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2017/05/27 06:30:38
I meant to take a further look into this last night but I got distracted helping Luigi fix the server.I'll take a look when I'm home after work today. |
Chip_Bruh |
Date sent: 2017/05/27 18:17:50
I've returned Eidahn's smite. |
Matodir |
Date sent: 2017/05/28 09:07:35
>Chip joins this Eidahn situation 5 days after it happened>Does more good than all the staff at once. I see. |
