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DreemurrTheDreamer
Date sent: 2016/10/07 17:01:20
I was muted for 10 hours for stating my opinion of Ellie's staff role. This builds on the fact that the staff are abusive with their powers, and don't care what the other's think about that. They accused me of bullying because I said that I personally don't think Ellie was fit for a staff role.

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Puff30826
Date sent: 2016/10/07 17:04:14
Asriel, you were saying that she would be better if she were dead and still making fun of her after Tom told you to stop. The mute was fully deserved and was not abuse.
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Tones
Date sent: 2016/10/07 17:06:22
I have to call bullshit on a bit of your statement sorry.

"This builds on the fact that the staff are abusive with their powers, and don't care what the other's think about that."

Most of us don't abuse and all of us care...
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IAmSavannah
Date sent: 2016/10/07 17:08:31
Asriel you were being extremely abusive and mean towards Ellie. I will post the logs if I have to.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2016/10/07 17:12:10
Thank you Puff. I have heard multiple times from different sources that you constantly pick on Ellie and give her grief. It has become that bad that it is now classed as Bullying.As a staff member you have to expect to get hate but what you were doing was well over the line.Even a defualt said that you were picking on Ellie for no reason. Before you say you didnt break any rules you did. Rule 3 "be nice to other players"
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NicHasATummyAche
Date sent: 2016/10/07 17:12:15
C'mom Asriel. You can't put the blame all on the mods. I don't like Ellie much either but she isn't the devil. This isn't /mute abuse.
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Baked_potato666
Date sent: 2016/10/07 17:17:19
First off all Sav and puff you say your nice but yet You pick on me and asriel the most so you say all we do is give ellie a hard time no it isnt like that maybe if you got yalls head out yalls asses you and talk to one of us you would see that Its not us starting it Im not saying that all of it is her fault i will admit some of it is on us but like the 1st amendment thing I ASKED A QUESTION! So please proceed to tell me that im wrong. Btw Tom and tones you two are the only nice staff ive seen besides chip You two both know ellie is power hungry please lets just talk this out we can all shit down and work this out - Thanks Potato
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DreemurrTheDreamer
Date sent: 2016/10/07 17:19:04
agreed with the potato
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Puff30826
Date sent: 2016/10/07 17:38:53
I don't pick on you guys. I just tell you when you are in the wrong. About the question about the 1st Amendment, Ellie just told you to not start another debate. Even if it didn't, that question had the possablity to start one, hence why she warned you.
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TheMario
Date sent: 2016/10/07 17:51:25
Reading this back I must say I was a little rude, but I do think the mute was deserved (mostly). Maybe not that long, but you also tried bypassing!
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QueenOfSalt
Date sent: 2016/10/07 18:05:51
Hi, if you do /rules in-game you will see a short list of rules that are meant to be followed:
[1] Be respectful
[2] Be ethical
[3] Use common sense
[4] Username changes are forbidden

These rules are extremely vague, but there are more specifics at spawn. The rule you broke was the rule #3 at spawn- Rule 3. Be nice to other players. When Tom told you to stop being rude multiple times, you broke rule #1 in /rules by being disrespectful towards staff.

I have only played on this server for a couple of hours, but from what I've seen you complain about Ellie for is no cause for concern. What I believe is that you think you can do better as staff and nobody believes you- who would? You're blatantly disrespectful towards authority figures and you send in complains every thirty seconds it seems.

If Ellie were actually a "bad mod", she would have been fired by now. Your disrespect and bullying is why you are in the wrong. Ellie is not, Tom is not. Nobody but you is in the wrong.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/07 18:58:26
Asriel my man, you are a hero, ignore our past together for now, you stated your opinion like a fucking boss. I'm with you bro, and it's not like he's lying about how ellie isn't fit for staff cmon rofl.

You guys are all pussies in my opinion, QueenOfSalt, what even are you? Luigi doesn't fire crap staff, since everyone is a pussy and soft af so luigi can't fire anyone so they don't cry and kill themselves.
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QueenOfSalt
Date sent: 2016/10/07 19:09:21
Have you had the guts to say that to him? Do you even realize the fact that the words you type hurt people? That this isn't a big server, so staff end up reading everything posted on the forums?

Everybody like you, Matodir, and Asriel and Potato are disrespectful. You're rude. You sit there and 'troll' (which is just bitching because you're all too good to listen to somebody when they tell you to stop fucking each other in the ass) at best and expect people to agree with you and like you.

if you people don't like the staff here, just go somewhere else. Nobody's going to give you the satisfaction of being banned, at least not today. You'll gladly be muted, temp-banned even if what you all do worsens, but your petty elementary level bullshit isn't going to get you banned until they've run out of 'warnings' to give.

You're childish and rude. Maybe you should take a nap- You really fucking need one, kiddo.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/07 19:18:15
Poor kid
>says insulting people on forums is bad
> insults me on forums
Sadness.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/07 19:19:07
Oh and, luigi is ok, he's a good man, he just needs to listen to people a bit more.
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QueenOfSalt
Date sent: 2016/10/07 19:20:34
???????? If you can deal it, you can take it. Ellie wasn't rude to anybody today, but you assholes were sitting there in game and on the forums being rude and disrespectful.

Stop using greentext on a forum. Literally go back to 4chan and sit with the trolls where you belong.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/07 19:24:58
I see rage in you child, good. As a staff ellie should expect hate if she's being a bad staff, unfortunately, due to your abundance of sadness you wouldn't know what being a staff takes.
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Harvey
Date sent: 2016/10/07 20:21:58
YAY THE FUNNY KID NADE ANOTHER COMPLAINT!!!

ANYWAY EVEN THO ELLIE IS A CANCER THAT SHOULD BE DESYROYED. BEING MEAN TO HER INGAME WILL STILL RESULT IN A MUTE AS IT WOULD ANYONE.

STOP CUTTING THE STORY UP TO MAKE YOUR DIPSHIT ARSE LOOK LIKE A VICTIM
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Harvey
Date sent: 2016/10/07 20:23:18
Queen of salt I don't know you but I bet your the fat girl no one in the class likes
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/07 20:35:29
^
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Techy
Date sent: 2016/10/07 20:43:16
The evidence here is also semi-inadequite as you have not shown what was said about Ellie.
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HotPikachuSex
Date sent: 2016/10/07 22:54:53
Hahahahahaha!
"Who do you call a piece of shit? (Spoiler: It's Asriel)
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Sparqy
Date sent: 2016/10/07 23:20:03
You'd do a great job working for CNN.
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Sparqy
Date sent: 2016/10/07 23:31:07
You didn't show us what led up to the mutes, which seems suspicious viewing from an angle with which no evidence has been provided of who did what.

Instead of posting a screenshot of the whole argument, preferably from minecraft logs, you posted only the segment of chat which you were muted a few times.

If I were banned, would I post the ban note and say it's abuse and make up a story? If you had the time to post these screenshots, you should have the time to post the part of this which yielded a mute or yielded a complaint against staff.

You do constantly 'troll' as Queen posted. From the logs I've seen, you incite drama and arguments. The punishments are driven by you. Maybe if you would lighten up a bit and have an ounce of respect for any one person, this wouldn't happen to you.

As for the rules, you did clearly break the bypassing of mute in a previous post which showed your username change once muted -and you break rule three when you pick on Ellie by giving her guff all the damn time without just cause. It's absolutely absurd to claim victim when you incite the drama.

If you break rules, you shouldn't expect to whine about it on the forums with null evidence and have said staff demoted. If you had shown more evidence on the abuse of staff, maybe you would get somewhere without being argued against.

It's also frustrating to be called an asshole when the person you have a case against shows all of the qualities he's/she's describing.
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QueenOfSalt
Date sent: 2016/10/07 23:32:53
Ellie should expect hate, yes, from childish people like you. That doesn't mean she deserves hate. That's just like contributing to the Tragedy of the Commons- Well, she's going to get hate anyway, so why not hate on her yourself? What has she done to you personally? Please. enlighten me on the negative impact she's had on your life.

Harvey, how old are you? Young enough to possess the inability to create a solid argument, in which you instead choose to throw insults in something you had no idea the context of?
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Drago2144
Date sent: 2016/10/08 00:14:12
I can tell from how you type that Harvey is older than you.
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QueenOfSalt
Date sent: 2016/10/08 00:24:47
I'm not pulling the "I'm older than you" card, I'm pulling the "Are you old enoguh to form a complete argument?" card, Nice try, though. It was a great effort.
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uRe_JDubz_TVoD
Date sent: 2016/10/08 01:23:55
I just have to say this post in extremely invalid. Next time something like this happens take a screenshot of what caused you to get muted, not what is said afterwards, with the information you provided we arent able to see what they perceived as "bullying" so we arent able to defend you unless we were on and saw it for ourselves.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/08 05:14:03
Harv is older than you Queen, more mature and more intelligent, he just said something you didn't like so instead of ending yourself you tried saying he's young and childish. Sad.
All staff expect should hate from not just "childish" people. If she does something wrong, some people would hate on her, now staff she had been doing a bit more wrong than good, even say if she improved, some hate will stay.

But obviously we understand that she can't ban or even mute you, since you're so sad, if she does ban or mute you they would be talking about a 10 year old girl that commited suicide on the news 10 minutes later.
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Harvey
Date sent: 2016/10/08 08:55:31
Oh thanks buds for getting my back

Queenofshit I'm here for fun not to start a political level debate. I will not make a solid argument for scum like you I will just tell you how it is.

Btw I'm 10 I'm in the 'my life is so tough stage' like ELLIE

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armzngunz
Date sent: 2016/10/08 09:40:30
Matodir, your only reason for supporting harvoo at the moment is because you're biased. If you viewed this from a neutral standpoint, you would realise how childish harvoo is, and I am sure you know you're wrong, but just want to stick up for the side you support the most.
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Harvey
Date sent: 2016/10/08 10:13:22
Armz your an adult and still bashing the fuck out of a kids game. I'm a child and don't play games and work ect.. you have no right to call me childish even though I may act it sometimes over the forums. Good day
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/08 12:13:23
I know I'm wrong, but so is everyone else arguing, and in certain occasions, unfortunately, to stop a wrong you need to be a wrong yourself. I know Asriel didn't put enough info to why he got muted, but from countless past experiences, I have to stand by the fact that ellie punishes people way too much, unless I see what actually happened.

I know I went a bit too far with QueenOfSalt, she just annoyed me so much with her first replies on this complaint.

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armzngunz
Date sent: 2016/10/08 14:43:49
I didn't bash minecraft harvoo, if I did, I would say "fuck minecraft", I assume that's what you meant when you said "bashing the fuck out of a kids game". Why would I bash a game I play alot?

And matodir, in this case it was Tom who muted Asriel, Ellie wasn't even there as far as I know, and from the comments on here, Asriel said loads of shit about Ellie which resulted in Tom muting him.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/08 16:10:52
I said ellie sometimes punishes blindly, never implied she punished Asriel this time. But I don't believe someone should get muted for 10 hours for stating their opinion. Opinions are what make the server better.
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Puff30826
Date sent: 2016/10/08 16:55:59
Matodir, He wasn't just "stating his opinion" He was making fun of her and saying that he wants her to die.
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Chip_Bruh
Date sent: 2016/10/08 18:57:34
You should uninstall your map mod, it's shows players.
You're only allowed maps which don't show other players and don't have x-ray.
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armzngunz
Date sent: 2016/10/08 19:48:09
@Matodir what puff said.
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DreemurrTheDreamer
Date sent: 2016/10/08 21:26:42
@armz - the only thing i really said about ellie is that she wasn't really good staff, and people got butthurt about that, so i was muted. the mute has been over for a while now, so it doesn't really matter, but i still don't like that staff think they can punish people for stating their opinion. this is the 3rd time i have been jailed/muted for the same reason.

@Chip - i don't have xray, and i understand 100000% why you think i do. i have been accused of this on about 5 other servers because of the GUI i have in the top left corner, but all it is is the GUI from xray, not the hack itself.

@Puff - i never said that i wanted her to die...
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Sparqy
Date sent: 2016/10/08 22:11:00
Dree, the minimap shows players, which isn't allowed. He never said your minimap had xray.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2016/10/08 23:03:02
Dreemurr you said that she was better off dead. I was msg Ellie on skype and Ellie jokingly sent me this

"I bet if you say in chat what does everyone think about Ellie they will go on a rant about how much they hate me xD"-Ellie

So I asked in chat what does everyone think of Ellie and this happens

[17:50:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Mod] ~Tom> What does everyone think of ellie?
[17:50:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NotNexo <[VIP]+ ~Asriel> use those diamonds wisely
[17:50:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] _Jules joined the game
[17:50:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NotNexo <[VIP]+ ~Asriel> better off dead
[17:50:10] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Quale <[Member] CherishedGhost> :|
[17:50:10] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <[Citizen] ~Jules> connected with an iPhone using MineChat
[17:50:13] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Quale <[Member] CherishedGhost> how did u get em in my inv
[17:50:14] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] <[Default] QueenOfSalt> wb
[17:50:16] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **CheeseArmy <[VIP]+ ~iiiiiMarioTheSenpaiiiiii> i like ellie tbh
[17:50:19] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Quale <[Member] CherishedGhost> HAX
[17:50:21] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **HamSociety <[VIP]+ ~PuffWithASideOfHam> I think she's a good mod

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Harvey
Date sent: 2016/10/08 23:07:21
@armz 'bash' here means to play a lot not hate or whatever you think it means. Sorry for the confusion
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Drago2144
Date sent: 2016/10/08 23:42:48
@QueenOfSalt

What are you,trapping yourself?If he isnt old enough to type a complete an argument,then by all means you cant even type,which clearly isnt the case.

Also,im just going to put this out here,(not directed to you queen)those are just plainfold words.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/09 05:41:13
Ok that's just wrong, just because she's a bad staff it doesn't mean she should die. This is like having a bad boss at work and you wish he's dead. Just because she's a bad staff in a game, it doesn't mean she has to die in real life

Oh and, QueenOfSalt, can you please stop being a disease to this community.
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DreemurrTheDreamer
Date sent: 2016/10/09 05:49:12
i already told multiple people that i wasn't fucking talking to ellie... as a matter of fact, i didn't even see tom ask the damn question.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2016/10/09 12:16:16
Dreemurr you are just digging yourself into a deeper hole. I have posted the logs from just before I asked "What does everyone think of Ellie" You claim that the response wasn't about Ellie and that you didn't see my question yet I can not see anyway were your response "Better off dead" fits into any other conversations.


[17:48:49] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **HamSociety <[VIP]+ ~PuffWithASideOfHam> Wb
[17:48:51] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **CheeseArmy <[VIP]+ ~iiiiiMarioTheSenpaiiiiii> hey guys
[17:49:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **CheeseArmy <[VIP]+ ~iiiiiMarioTheSenpaiiiiii> so now cheesearmy is empty
[17:49:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NotNexo <[VIP]+ ~Asriel> lol
[17:49:18] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **CheeseArmy <[VIP]+ ~iiiiiMarioTheSenpaiiiiii> it's not that funny imo
[17:49:22] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] [Citizen] ~Potato is now AFK.
[17:49:29] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NotNexo <[VIP]+ ~Asriel> bre
[17:49:43] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **CheeseArmy <[VIP]+ ~iiiiiMarioTheSenpaiiiiii> i hope luigi is on them hosters asses
[17:49:50] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NotNexo <[VIP]+ ~Asriel> BRE
[17:49:58] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **CheeseArmy <[VIP]+ ~iiiiiMarioTheSenpaiiiiii> ?
[17:49:59] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Quale <[Member] CherishedGhost> what
[17:50:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] *Hyperion <[Mod] ~Tom> What does everyone think of ellie?
[17:50:04] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NotNexo <[VIP]+ ~Asriel> use those diamonds wisely
[17:50:08] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] _Jules joined the game
[17:50:09] [Client thread/INFO]: [CHAT] **NotNexo <[VIP]+ ~Asriel> better off dead
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QueenOfSalt
Date sent: 2016/10/09 14:14:41
Keep my fucking name out of your mouth, Matodir. I want nothing to do with you or your cancerous bitching about something you were no part of.
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/09 15:07:33
QueenOfSalt, I wasn't a part of it, but you were most cancerous person in it too. Kindly end yourself.
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thomasjones
Date sent: 2016/10/09 15:20:45
Matt, Queen that's enough
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Harvey
Date sent: 2016/10/09 16:54:03
Ahah queen is a raging 10 yo bitch
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Matodir
Date sent: 2016/10/09 17:09:06
Nailed it harv.
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Harvey
Date sent: 2016/10/09 17:40:06
Probably got her first period

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